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Ok, Long time reader, first time poster.

I have a serious work situation and I don't know if it's unreasonable for me to be so angry. Not angry really, absolutely furious. I have no idea how to handle this and looking for opinions.

I'll be as brief as possible.

I work for a huge, massive, gigantic company, one you've all heard of. I jave worked here for 14 years. A long time colleague, 12 years or so, has just fucked me over for no obvious reason.

Everyone in my department (including my colleague in question) gets a shift allowance, it's a sweetner for being on call over certain weekends.

Because my colleague (lets call her H) has been on long term sick, left, came back on another contract, her on call allowance is less than mine. I don't know why, same job, but she signed up to a new contract when she came back.

Now, two years ago our department stopped routinely working weekends and since then all new starters are on the contract which H signed. My boss at that time said he wanted flexibility to allow for weekend work if necessary and I had no objection to being called in so he left me on my old contract.

Today he called me into the office first thing, first day back from my leave, and asked me to sign a new contract. Apparently H has been emailing HR about me and saying it's unfair I get paid £40p/m more than her because I'm still on the old contract.

My boss said he's sorry but she has made so much "noise" that HR are now on his back. He said she brought the issue up in a staff meeting while I was leave last week, so everybody knows it's her anyway, and he's not being unprofessional in telling me it was her.

I'm fucking fuming, she gets nothing out of this. Nothing. She has messed with my pay just because she could.

No massive back story, no drip feed. I thought we were good work colleagues, even helped her get out of major trouble a few years back.

No idea why she would do this.

What do i say when I see her tomorrow.

Aibu in being so angry?

What would you do now?
Sorry for the long post.

*I can’t see that they would ever come off well from this

Hope things went well today op

As the reason your colleague knew your situation is that she has seen your payslip, and she has now shared details of your salary in a meeting- I think this means she is In breach of data protection. A colleague of mine is in dispute over her salary as she found out the previous person in her role was on a higher pay grade. After the person left, she left some personal papers behind which colleague looked at without knowing what they were. She can’t mention this knowledge to the employer, as she would be then be in trouble for breaching the ex employees data privacy. Mention this to your HR, people can’t just broadcast personal information as they wish.

Don’t sign anything and get legal advice. As others have pointed out they can’t just make you redundant and re hire same job. They can threaten to but you need to know your rights before signing.

It's your manager and HR that are trying to shaft you, not H. Don't get distracted and lose focus. They could have closed down any discussion of your contract in the meeting as unprofessional. They could also have closed down any discussions she tried to start in the same way. They didn't.
They're trying to get you to agree a new contract whilst blaming H. But H doesn't have the power to affect your contract so don't get distracted by her.
Email your manager and ask for the minutes of the meeting where he says your contract was discussed. Share the minutes with your union and seek advice on what your next step should be.

Get advice.

Formal grievance time

I’d just tell we she has breached confidentiality and broadcast your Ts & Cs of employment Willy nilly. You’re not happy about it and will be taking it up with HR yourself about her conduct. Hopefully that will get the message across.

Surely HR should not be discussing your salary or T&C with another individual. Even if she does know what you get, they should have refused to discuss it futher due to data protection and confidentiality.... and if she wanted a rise she would have to do a strategic report to show why she should.

Your employer change your contract but only with your agreement. If you don’t agree then you are entitled to statutory notice period in your case 12 weeks. After that time if you don’t sign a new contract then you are effectively resigning. Very harsh I know. However this has become part of your contract and I think it’s terrible that they are trying to change it because of an employee who broke her service. What your manager should be saying is that is the reason she doesn’t get it. Who actually is making the decisions here? The manager or the employee?

By the way no they definitely make you redundant. The role is still there. It is always the post not the person that becomes redundant. However as the employment law person and I have said they can at the end of the 12 week notice period claim that you have resigned as you won’t sign a new contract. That’s employment law for you. Not fair but it’s what we have to work with at the moment

I have worked for 35years, with some close and lifelong friends along the way - we have never seen each other’s payslips, have you been boasting op?
It doesn’t wash with me that she’s casually seen your payslips - how?
Also the conversation you had with your boss is unprofessional and doesn’t ring true. I smell BS.

I agree with the others. She probably wanted a raise rather than a loss of pay on your part. Her behaviour is greedy and short sighted.

YANBU to be cross and providing you can keep your temper I suggest the next time you're both at work you request a discussion with her (I would bring another colleague) and tell her you are aware of her complaint, that you are sad and angry that she would do such as spiteful thing for the sake of a measley £40 and that you thought better of her than that, particularly as you helped her out previously.... take your boss, he can at least make himself useful.

Then ask her if she has anything to say for herself.

I would finish by congratulating her on ruining your friendship/working relationship and for ensuring her other colleagues will never trust her again thanks to her greedy, treacherous behaviour.

Smile sweetly then leave.

Don't sign anything, you can drag this out as you like, by all means speak to HR but they are usually overpaid, useless cretins in my experience.

@Toomuchtrouble4me my colleagues and I were always discussing our wages and looking at each others wage slips a few years back... mostly discussing crap pay and non payment of bank shifts.

It happens, your BS meter is way off.

Well - learn a lesson and don’t share payslips - you knew you were getting more than colleague - keep your mouth shut in future.

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If your contract is over four years old, it's classed as permanent. I don't see how they could make you sign a new one as its illegal to change your contract unless you both agree. If they put pressure on you, that would probably be heading towards constructive dismissal. I guess they could argue that your job has significantly altered and that you have agreed to that change by not being on call at weekends. I had a job where I was officially on call 24/7 and paid likewise but never got a call. If I'd agreed to have it removed from my contract that's different from them deciding to do it without asking. To do so would have downgraded my job level and accountability (they made my job redundant though...)

I've pondered that you could just ask your boss for a £500-£1000 payrise as part of your new contract. Say you're happy to sign but obviously would expect a payrise due to loyalty to the company, comparable terms to your old contract and hardship to you. Drop hints regarding GDPR breach and the cost of recruiting experienced staff. You might also point out that the job would be redundant, not you, which would probably involve huge sums as you've been with them so long...I'm not sure if all staff at risk of redundancy are supposed to be offered roles with equivalent or better terms.

If your contract is over four years old, it's classed as permanent. I don't see how they could make you sign a new one as its illegal to change your contract unless you both agree. If they put pressure on you, that would probably be heading towards constructive dismissal

Fucking hell.

3 sentences. All with not one bit of truth in them.

Pollymere, I’m afraid what you’ve said is mostly incorrect. Please don’t give advice when it’s not something you are expert in.

www.gov.uk/your-employment-contract-how-it-can-be-changed

Sorry all, I'm quoting the government guidelines...if they're wrong, I can only apologize but I suggest you aim your exasperation towards them instead.

Agree with Mia1415. I'm an HRBP. They need to formally consult with you and have clear business reasons as to why they need to make the change. I would be suggesting in consultation that they increase base salary to compensate for loss to be honest. It is true that if you fail to accept a change following consultation, then they can serve notice of the change and dismiss for SOSR (some other substantial reason) if you do not accept. They then re-engage on the new terms with no break in service. There are sometimes very good reasons why you need to do this. This, to me doesn't really sound like one of them. I would raise a grievance for failure to consult. You can also go to ACAS and raise an early conciliation.

Haven’t read all the thread yet so sorry if this has been said. I would contact ACAS. They’re spot on about employment issues and have helped me several times.

I have zero advice but I too would be absolutely livid and would definitely be filing a complaint that your personal information was broadcasted during a meeting, I also would hold of signing and request a meeting to renegotiate terms.

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