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MushySeas · 23/07/2019 08:07

After losing a significant amount of weight years ago, I'm gutted and feeling depressed to have put half a stone back on since I started running a year ago, and I've tried and failed for 6 months now to lose it again. I love running (15k a week on average) but should I give up?

I'm only short so every pound shows.

I eat healthily, and cook from scratch so no hidden calories. I thought running would help shift a few more pounds!

Every day I'm feeling like a failure for putting this weight back on and I feel very chubby and unattractive.

Any advice at all?

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oldwhyno · 23/07/2019 11:19

"I have at least 10 portions of fruit/veg a day."

If you really feel the need to shed those pounds you could cut down here. That seems like too much food. Getting 5 a day is great, but getting 10 a day isn't twice as great. It's just great with more calories.

Running and strength training is good for you, but if it's making you hungrier and you're taking in more calories than you're burning, you can still gain weight. It really can be that simple. But don't stop your exercise. Try and keep it consistent and then try to reduce calorie intake just enough to slowly lose a little weight. You want to be aiming to lose 1lb every 1 or 2 weeks.

LiliesAndChocolate · 23/07/2019 11:23

Nuts and seeds are high in fats and protein, dried fruit is packed with sugar.
Snack on frozen berries if you need a snack or have a miso soup.
What about the 10 fruit/veg a day you have? Is it 5 and 5 ? too much fruits will leave your starving because of its sugar content.

I have have in my fridge a green smoothies. I do this one, minus the fruit, just kale, purple kale, spinach and sometimes I add fresh turmeric.
Do you use coconut paste or cream for your curries?

What is in your salads you have at lunch? very often, they are treacherous and in-between the feta and dressing you might eat far more calories than you think. Read here www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/12-salads-worse-big-mac?slide=cd9f9d4a-81ee-459a-a562-71f59199a8dd#cd9f9d4a-81ee-459a-a562-71f59199a8dd

Cronometer is quite good to keep track of your nutrition and you won't believe how quickly the calories climb cronometer.com
It is free, you just have to join.

I will against the crowd and say that you try to cut the running for two weeks at the same time you try to analyse what you are really eating. . Do short sprint burst totalling 15 min. This is enough to give you all the metabolic benefits and maybe it will give your more energy

MushySeas · 23/07/2019 11:27

@ZillaPilla I really do! Actually a stone would be better. I'll set a stone as my goal, I think.

I will start tracking absolutely everything 👍 I feel motivated again now, thanks again for all the advice. I think I needed a good kick!

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Ivy40 · 23/07/2019 11:30

Maybe you’re developing more muscle in your legs from running?

I find that Anna Richardson’s Summer Body Blitz helps me lose a bit of weight quickly. I never lose the 7lbs in a fortnight, it usually takes about 3 weeks. It works though. I do it every April/Nay as I always put in about half a stone over winter.

pinknsparkly · 23/07/2019 11:35

I'm good in the day at eat only 3 healthy meals (no snacks) but by 6-7pm I am so hungry that I feel faint when I stand up, so I have to have something.

Do you feel ravenously hungry in the mornings or would you be ok not eating breakfast? I am similar to you and get super super hangry in the evenings. I have instead shifted my meals backwards by several hours (against all advice that says you should eat hours before bedtime - well that just makes me wake up hungry in the middle of the night and raid the fridge!). It's a genuine method of eating/dieting - look up "time restricted eating" online if you are interested. It's essentially a form of intermittent fasting where you don't eat outside your eating window. You can set your eating window to whatever best suits you. I try to eat all my calories between 1pm and 9pm, which makes an 8 hour eating window. I have a late lunch around 1pm, a second lunch/tea around 5/6pm and then dinner at 8/9pm. I am still tweaking how I do this, but it's made such a difference for me (and I'm not completely strict about the fasting - if I'm peckish in the morning then I will have a few milky cups of tea which helps tide me over until food). It's honestly the only way I've been able to keep my calories even vaguely under control without the epic evening binging that you describe.

ZillaPilla · 23/07/2019 11:38

Maybe you’re developing more muscle in your legs from running?

If this was the case, the OP wouldn't feel chubby and that her clothes were a little too snug.

notatwork · 23/07/2019 11:39

You have built muscle which weighs more per inch than fat and also changes your shape.
Make sure you drink at least 2 litres of water a day and try 'clean eating' for at least 3 days a week to flush your system a bit, then reassess your calories vs your exercise requirements. If you are feeling faint in the evening then something is amiss.

MushySeas · 23/07/2019 12:24

@pinknsparkly I totally see your thinking, there.

I'm very hungry in the morning, I would feel quite faint and fatigued if I didn't eat within 30 mins of waking up. (Not anemic, it's just me, I have low blood pressure)

I eat at 7am, 12 noon, and 5pm. I could try and hold off eating dinner until 6.30pm and that may help?

I'm full after breakfast and lunch but never feel full or satisfied after dinner. No matter what I've eaten. I tried upping the protein (like extra chickpeas) but that didn't help.

I'm just going to put up with being hungry and hopefully it'll fade away.

I really don't think it's muscle. I look fatter, not more lean. It's all fatty fatness.

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MushySeas · 23/07/2019 17:42

@LiliesAndChocolate

Thanks very much for recommending Cronometer! I've weighed and input absolutely everything I've eaten today.

Total of 1122kcal, but that's 57 calories over what I should be having to lose a pound a week.

Going to force myself out for a walk to burn those 57kcals off and when I do get hungry later I'll have water.

Thanks again! Can see where I'm going wrong now.

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LiliesAndChocolate · 25/07/2019 12:04

@MushySeas
I would also recommend that for a couple of weeks you go whole food, plant based or not, according to your preferences. Aim to stick to the NOVA class 1archive.wphna.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WN-2016-7-1-3-28-38-Monteiro-Cannon-Levy-et-al-NOVA.pdf
so single ingredient food with no or very little processing. Yes to apple, no to apple sauce, yes to rolled oats, no to corn flakes, every single vegetables under the sun, which you can combine in stew , soups or salads. I eat brown/red/black rice but not pasta as I try to stay to the most natural form possible. For this reason I also don't drink fruit juice, but make my own green smoothie/ I don't go nuts on nuts and seeds, had no sugar to anything and only add very little extra virgin olive oil.
I eat lentils and other legumes and beans. Use a lot of fresh herbs, parsley, rosemary, basil, ..
My only processed food is unsweetened soy or almond milk, tofu and tempeh, vinegar.

I have a very high fiber intake. Raspberries have a surprising high amount of fiber.

If you change your diet to a natural whole food one, you not only will not experience hunger but you will build gut bacterias that will be beneficial to weight loss. It takes an enormous amount of cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, and spinach to reach your calorie target when you limit your oil to 1 tbl spoon/meal (lemon, basil leaves, 1/4 avocado makes a nice dressing if you need more creaminess ) .

the industrial transformation of food has made food problematic. Keep it simple, try for a week or two and see how it goes. I aim at 20 different vegetables in a single week and it is a lot easier than you think.

Awaywiththefairies27 · 25/07/2019 12:22

There's a lady on YouTube who has a drop a dress size in a week workout video and it's been amazing for me. I've been working on losing baby weight and 16w post partum I'm already down 13kg from where I was. The workouts are only 7 minutes long too.
Her name is Lucy Wyndham-Read. Worth a shot if you're desperate.

MushySeas · 26/07/2019 08:11

Awaywiththefairies27 thank you I'll try it out!

I've started HIIT and I've been tracking everything. I've cut down on carbs and not snacked in the evening.

I'm still feeling very dizzy/greying out a bit when I get up, but just dealing with it.

Just weighed myself and I've lost 2.5lbs. hurrah! Only 11.5 to go.

Thanks again for all the advice :) it really is bloody tough to lose that last half stone/stone.

Having to be strict and dedicated. I think I got a bit loose with myself after losing the initial 50kg years ago.

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LiliesAndChocolate · 26/07/2019 09:28

50 kg!!!!

Well done on your kick start for this last lbs. Sometimes what works is a shift of diet. You are on the right track. Keep going!!
Oh and roasted seaweed is quite nice when you are craving crisps. But don't abuse, because of the iodine content of seaweed.

MushySeas · 26/07/2019 10:30

@LiliesAndChocolate I only lost the 50kg when I completely changed my diet to one you recommend in your posts. Real food, cooked from scratch.

I eliminated all processed 'food' and all refined sugar. Swapped coffee for green tea, and I didn't eat any gluten or dairy for 24 months. It melted off!

My diet is full of whole foods and good fats, protein and complex carbs now. Just evidently too much of them! I think it's worth me cutting the dairy and gluten again, as well as the high sugar fruits.

I did maintain for 5 years at 8.8 but my portions since running have increased and mentally I must be thinking 'I can have those dried apricots as I've gone for a run...' but it doesn't quite work like that does it?!

You really can get too much of a good thing, it's such a balance.

Logging in the App is helping so much. To get this last stone off will be the toughest weight out of my journey, I think.

Thanks for all your help and advice Flowers

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LiliesAndChocolate · 30/07/2019 00:51

@MushySeas how are you doing? Once iou go for real food i find it actually easy

flapslack · 30/07/2019 07:02

Try changing 2 runs to 2 long cycles.

MushySeas · 30/07/2019 07:04

@LiliesAndChocolate it's going really well, thank you! I've not deviated whatsoever. It has been super easy.

I've dropped from 9.1 to 8.10 in a week by sticking to 950kcal (recommended by Cronometer) I've kept up with HIIT, did a 12k hike and a 5k run, and my clothes are noticably looser again. Definitely lost some yucky tummy fat, very delighted. My confidence has really improved for it.

Once I lose more (maybe another 10lbs) I'll up the calories to maintain.

The weight gain absolutely was my portion sizes creeping up and eating evening snacks like dried fruit.

Have you always been a healthy weight and eaten a wholefood, balanced diet or was it a lifestyle change you implemented?

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b0bb1n · 30/07/2019 07:05

Drink the recommended amount of water every day, religiously. I used to buy 3 x 1 litre bottle of water and have one before work, one during work, and one after.

Cut out ALL sugar the best you possibly can.

BonAccordSpur · 30/07/2019 07:17

Definately keto&weights&/or rowing machine..id ease back on running&just let the food/resistance exercise work its magic.I lost 14lbs easily in 5weeks like that..went on to lose more&have been maintaining for past year-so i cut back cardio&increased strength&it works great.Good luck

Freesunglasses · 30/07/2019 07:46

I'd second running for longer. Saying that I've run every single day since 28th December 2018 including long runs of up to 23 miles on weekends, I've lost 7lb. I do eat too much cake though. It really is down to diet, when I cut down my food for a few days it drops off. I love food though!

Freesunglasses · 30/07/2019 07:48

Your body gets used to certain exercises and need a shock, so mix it up (preaches not practices)

LiliesAndChocolate · 30/07/2019 07:57

@MushySeas
I have always been slim, but I am French and it is socially expected you maintain your figure and I have fluctuated between 50 and 55 kgs for the last 30 years.

Two years ago I drastically switched to a plant based diet to try to control tumours eruption as I have NF1. Up until a few years ago, I was a very mild case until hundreds of skin tumours literally appeared overnight. I adopted an anticancer diet and the new tumours regressed. I also lost weight quite quickly. But then, as my personal trainer once said, once you reach 50 years of age, you have to make a choice, the face or the bum, and being too skinny didn't give me the face I liked.

I use Cronometer to control my vitamins and minerals intake as it is extremely easy to become malnourished on a plant based diet.

At first I used to spend too much time reading labels in supermarket, now I just take whole food, as close to the state they come out of the soil as possible, so yes to rice, but I excluded the flours as most of the time, even the wholemeal flour is actually white flour + bran, which would still give me peaks in insulin, and too many additives even good ones. For my condition folates (from green veggies) are good, folic acid is bad and they put folic acid in everything. I eat processed food of course, such as tofu and coffee, I have excluded as much sugar as I can. The hunger and dizziness (feeling faint) you described in your OP made me think of blood sugar.

Where you feel alright and able to maintain a weight and feeling pleasure in eating is a very personal number. Once I read of a MNetter who was in a state of panic at the thought of going out for a pizza with her family and thinking she would destroy months of sacrifice in one night. this is unsustainable. To maintain weight, if you stop eating crap, even healthy crap, it is actually quite easy .
Love yourself your body and know that you are giving it the best food for a long and healthy life. And if you have a pizza or a food you love once a month, nothing will happen.
I have the best motivation ever, as not only do we get disfiguring skin tumours with NF1, but our lifetime risk of cancer is 60% with the added bonus of a shitty prognosis. So I have ditched the steak for kale and the cheese for blueberries.

Can I suggest a couple of drinks:

  • do a cold brew of hibiscus tea and leave in the fridge brewing overnight, you have a delicious tangly drink the next day which is over the chart high in antioxidants.
  • A golden milk, with a mug of almond milk in the blender, a 3 cm piece of fresh turmeric, a bit of pepper and half a teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil to activate the turmeric, a bit of vanilla extract and stevia , ice cubes and blend.
  • homemade cold green tea, with freshly made green tea, and pour in a jug in which you add frozen berries of all sort, lemon, peach, and ice cubes. Drink in the next hour to benefit from antioxidant from green tea. Do not drink at meal time as it inhibits iron absorption.

I have a couple of those on a daily basis with also the green smoothie I linked further up. I can guarantee you won't feel hunger or cravings by adding a couple of these to your daily diet. The green smoothie especially will give you a very healthy glow, as kale is extremely high in betacarotene and the second you walk in the sunshine, your skin has a lovely colour. Too bad it is freezing winter in Sydney where I live.

Well done for the weight you have lost, both the 50kgs you lost previously and the one you are losing now. You are a strong runner and enjoy exercise. Try to increase now the variety of vegetables you eat (mushrooms, cabbage, okra, bean sprouts, bok choy, green beans, beetroot, pumpkin , leeks....) and you will notice the change in the way you feel (thank you good gut bacterias!) . Cooking turns fun because you are experimenting new food and discovering cuisine from the Middle east and Asia.

Keep going and update! Au revoir!!

JustDanceAddict · 30/07/2019 08:20

Good luck to you. Mfp is the only thing that works for me - eating around 1300 cals a day but not counting exercise so that’s ‘extra’ burnt. I can easily lose 1lb a week in this way.
If I have 7-10lbs to lose I will do this, if only 3-5lbs I’ll just cut out crap.

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