To think she should not be making these claims

[Witchofzog]

One of my friends has retrained in beauty and works both from a salon and self employed in people's homes. I shall call her Alice. Alice has a 19 year old dd who I will call Sophie. Sophie has had painful cystic acne for many many years which has really dented her confidence. For a long time she would not visit her GP but instead bought over the counter remedies and internet miracle creams which had no effect.

Until last month where she finally went to her GP and was prescribed a strong topical lotion. In the same month Alice treated Sophie to 2 micro abrasion type treatment. She has one this with Sophie before with no effect but stated this particular treatment was a different one. At the end of the month Sophies skin started to show a marked improvement which has done wonders for her self esteem. I really am so very happy for her as she is a lovely young woman who deserves to feel confident in her own skin.

Alice recently put before and after pictures on Facebook on both local selling sites and the salon site talking about her "customer" and how the abrasion has transformed her life. I feel this is wrong as the abrasions are not cheap and it is more likely to be the lotion that has cleared up Sophies skin more than the abrasion. I am not saying the abrasion may not have helped but to attribute the whole thing to her treatments I feel is misleading people who may fork out expecting a miracle

Why do you care?

I care because I feel it's exploiting people as the whole story has not been told.

That's what advertising is.
Selling a story.
No advertisers ever tell the whole story
If she posted before and after pics and the girl had the treatment, she is doing nothing wrong.
If she had changed her diet, instead of using face cream, would you still think it wrong?

She isn't advertising perfume or jeans though. She is making medical claims that this treatment is a cure for acne. She has been doing micro abrasions for a while now and has not been able to make this particular claim before which is another reason why I don't think the abrasion can solely be responsible. She often has before and after pictures of her customers with different make up or nails etc and all these pictures are lovely. But it's the medical claim that doesn't sit right with me as these treatments are expensive.

I understand why you would ask the diet question because there could indeed be lots of factors at play. However unless there is an underlying allergy, diet rarely causes the severe cystic acne Sophie experiences

Its a beauty treatment not a medical procedure

Who cares?

Yeah it’s deceitful.

Exactly but she is marketing it as a medical type procedure. She is not saying this will give people glowing skin or even that it can help with imperfections. She is saying THIS is the cure for acne. It might mislead people into having the treatment rather than seeing their own GP. I know she isn't responsible for the wellbeing of these people but I remember how Sophie used to be. Desperate to try anything she could buy. Too embarrassed to see her doctor. Hiding her face behind a curtain of hair.

I agree with you OP

This is really misleading & potentially dangerous. There's no evidence that it's the abrasion that's sorting Sophie's skin. In fact any reputable beautician wouldn't touch someone's skin, if they have skin issues, without prior consent from GP or dermatologist to say it's advised.

I'd let her know your views

Tbh, I don’t see what you can do, although I do sympathise. But short of posting on her page exposing her lie- which will cause you all sorts of problems, the least of which being the end of the friendship- what else is there?

She shouldn't be doing it. Am sure nowhere in the advertisement it will be mentioning the topical prescribed lotion which was used alongside her beauty treatment.
She isn't being honest. False claim.

I’m with you OP I don’t know why you’re getting a hard time.

@ringtone. If you really have nothing constructive to say either for or against then why don't you toddle off to another thread

Ha is it Zineryt? YANBU OP, that's awful.

Although, thinking about it a bit more, you’d really have to be dim to think the treatments cured acne wouldn’t you? I’m just wondering if there will really be anyone sucked in tbh

I agree with you op.

That's it. She has not mentioned anywhere that Sophie has also consulted her GP and it is these 2 things combined that has helped her. It's so misleading and I don't get how she can think it's right to do this when she knows what her own daughter has been through. I don't think she believes it herself either which is the worse thing

Sorry to any poster called Ringtone. The above was directed a @ringdonna

She's not being 100% honest or accurate
But then she works in the beauty industry. NO one would expect it.
Have you seen those ads for skin cream?
Or those muscle toning before and after pics where they are clearly sucking in their stomach so hard they are risking an aneurysm?
No different really

I guess I expected better because she was raging at some of the crap Sophie bought under false advertising. Some of which were also incredibly expensive. She had been desperate to get Sophie yo go to the GP for a long time.

I also don't know if she should have mentioned the photos were her daughter rather than a customer either but that's nothing I guess compared to the bold claim she is making

Thing is I can see that if she were l’oreal You could complain to trading standards of the advertising standards agency, but a one woman band on Facebook? I mean there is tonnes of shite on there

And to be fair, no one seems to stop l’oreal Claiming that Jane Fonda looks great due to their cream when we all know she’s got a face full of plastic and Botox

Exploiting her own daughter to sell things. Nice. And very difficult for the daughter to refuse, so pretty repulsive.

I agree with you, OP. Sadly I think you'll struggle to get her to agree

Awhile ago there was a lady who lost quite a lot of weight on Joe Wicks. I will call her Fangela. She did a before and after promo for him and didn't mention she'd had an abdomoplasty. Her results were brilliant from exercise and weight loss alone were great and she'd worked so hard but the op still helped. It wasn't mentioned though in the first promo cut. I challenged the lack of this key bit of info and received hate messages from her groupies. 😂 I can only hope the video was changed to include the truth.

Microdermabrasion is only any good for acne if it's very mild - no more than black or whiteheads. It's positively contraindicated for infected/pustular or cystic acne, as it can make it much worse.

How good a friend is Alice? There is a fair chance Trading Standards would be interested.

at the Jane Fonda comment. I am not going to be able to say anything near what I want to say sadly. I have said to her that the GP visit has worked wonders which she agreed with hence the earlier comment that I don't think she truly believes it is the micro abrasion that has "cured" her daughter.

Sophie hates pictures on social media unless she 100 percent feels confident in them. She often de tags photos of herself. I can't see how she would therefore be happy with the hair scraped back close up of her "before" skin to be jonest