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Calling all rep-of Ireland Mumsnetters!! Main differences between Ireland and UK??

133 replies

Neighbour1 · 19/07/2019 07:41

Just that really, posting here for traffic!

What are the main differences that you can see, about lifestyle, wages, attitudes, work, education, people?? In general I can see a few on here so thought I’d ask, as the two countries are so close (and were once 1) there seems to be a lot of differences!!

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Monty32 · 19/07/2019 23:43

The Irish have a more relaxed approach to time. People will say “see you at 9 but don’t worry if you are a bit late”. The English will be there for 10 to 9!

I have also found the Irish to be lax when it comes to rules. The English are very black and white whereas the Irish would see it as “sure he didn’t do any harm”.

Likethebattle · 19/07/2019 23:44

Also, turnips, presses, saying hello to strangers in the street and friendliness, banter and sarcasm, all very similarities in Scotland.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 19/07/2019 23:45

Mmmm I'm Celtic through my Cornish Heritage but don't think there are many similarities there - I'm always late tho so that's obv why I've settled so well in Ireland 🙊

SudowoodoVoodoo · 19/07/2019 23:47

Family alienation may be in part that students are more likely to stay local for university then settle rather than spreading across the UK. I'm guessing that elderly Irish people would have had larger families than their British contemporaries so more chance of an avaliable relative. This will be less relevant in the future as there is little difference in current generations.

Much of the Irish motorway network is comparatively recent. It can take a long time to get around some parts of the country by rural roads. There's not much along Irish motorways. English motorways seem to be turning into corridors of distribution warehouses. Large towns/ cities are much closer together in much of the UK and better connected to a range of other places by road and rail.

wurlycurly · 19/07/2019 23:48

Also there is no ‘K’ in Ireland, so it has to be celloggs corn flakes and crispy creme doughnuts. It’s difficult for the rappers because ‘c’ doesn’t always cut it

ThePixieQueen · 19/07/2019 23:49

I lived in the U.K. for eight years before moving to Ireland where I’ve been for eight years (before that it was Australia and NZ).

The U.K. is cheaper for most things - food, utilities (particularly mobile and broadband plans), clothing, makeup, perfume, electronics etc The Irish retailer doesn’t just want their cut, he also wants your tears. The courier actually gave us chocolates last Christmas and made a special trip for my dining room lights Christmas Eve morning. Google translate and amazon.fr and Amazon.de will be my new best friends.

The Irish are friendlier, but the British are more accepting of other nationalities/ cultures (perhaps too much in some places). A friend was told recently she needs to be more Irish to succeed professionally here; she’s Australian. Another friend was told off for being here and taking Irish jobs. She said it was somewhat ironic given the Irish reputation for migration.

The British are generally more organised (though Brexit is not a good example). A British tradesman will usually turn up on the day, the Irish could be a week late. This also applies to dealing with any company or department.

I really appreciate the way the Irish mourn someone’s passing. I’ve been to the funerals of people I’ve never met here. Like my colleagues sister in law or my husbands boss’ mother in law. It seems to be ‘the done thing’. The British largely ignored a death professionally. I actually got a written warning from my U.K. employer for taking time off for my my great grandmothers funeral as great nana wasn’t close family Hmm. I’ve also been to more weddings, communions and christenings here too.

The fixation on honours degrees is definitely true, but it appears to be a more recent thing. So are cars. We’ve purchased all of cars in the U.K... and then paid a fine to Revenue each time of about €3,000 each time (it’s called VRT, it’s compulsory but supposedly not an import tax). We still save money and get a better spec car. Going out is more expensive, for a meal or drinks. It rains more in Ireland.

A lot more.

Where you live is definitely important in Ireland, and state supports are much more generous. Primary and secondary education is almost exclusively religious in Ireland. University education is much cheaper than the U.K. - certainly not £9,000 a year.

The Irish is generally up for a good time, and work tomorrow isn’t a good reason to opt out. The British appear to struggle more with holding their drink, maybe the Irish have stronger genes.

Events are better in the U.K. Festivals, shows, local things run by your council etc are better organised, better value etc. The Irish can claim it’s economy of scale but it’s not, as NZ is a similar size and still delivers good quality, well resourced events.

dreamyspires · 19/07/2019 23:50

MyBlueMoonbeam I’m from the the north myself originally, and it’s true people are friendly there. But not on the same scale as in Ireland. All my visitors remark on it. When we first used to visit here, we’d get total strangers inviting us in for tea. But then, Ireland has always been renowned for it.

Flooopers · 19/07/2019 23:56

the republic of Ireland sent condolences to Germany after hitler killed himself the uk did not.

Ireland didn't become a republic until 1949.

Monty32 · 19/07/2019 23:56

Story telling is a highly prized skill in Ireland possibly originating from the tradition of the Seanchai. People will sit and listen to a story in a pub and wait for the punchline. A night out can involve stories and songs. And you can join in a group you don’t know for the song song and that’s totally acceptable.

Nannyamc · 19/07/2019 23:58

Ah but..
The Craic is mighty all around the country. Soccer Gaelic rugby are all United. Kids have a great childhood doing all they want to do. The uk was a great home for the Irish and vise versa now. Brexit should not destroy this. I sure hope that the outcome will be good as it could destroy us all..we need each other now make re than ever.

Nannyamc · 19/07/2019 23:59

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OkPedro · 20/07/2019 00:01

K and C are pronounced the same. Kellogg’s is eh Kellogg’s
Cat is Cat
Do you call a cat a sat curlywurly 😂
There is no k as Gaeilge, is that what you meant?

wurlycurly · 20/07/2019 00:02

I’m messing!

Flooopers · 20/07/2019 00:02

The county allegiance

Absolutely. 'Where are you from?' means 'which county are you from?' and it's such a part of people's identity whereas in the UK counties are just a way of denoting which local administration an area falls under.

Flooopers · 20/07/2019 00:03

with the exception of Yorkshire! They're county obsessed!

Flooopers · 20/07/2019 00:04

Events are better in the U.K. Festivals, shows, local things run by your council etc are better organised, better value etc.

Agree with this!

dreamyspires · 20/07/2019 00:06

Ireland doesn’t have good car boot sales for some reason.

Flooopers · 20/07/2019 00:07

The U.K. is cheaper for most things - food, utilities (particularly mobile and broadband plans), clothing, makeup, perfume, electronics etc The Irish retailer doesn’t just want their cut, he also wants your tears.

Strong agree!

wurlycurly · 20/07/2019 00:09

There is far more to bind me to my brother and sister than would tear us apart. These are divisive times and lazy generalisations based on national identity add nothing to the pot of human happiness.

Flooopers · 20/07/2019 00:10

I keep my toaster in the cupboard! I will have to scan the family tree for some rogue protestant genes. Grin

MyBlueMoonbeam · 20/07/2019 00:16

dreamyspires true but I think times are changing and I think people don't seem to have the time to be as friendly anymore tbh 😓

SlipperOrchid · 20/07/2019 00:24

the republic of Ireland sent condolences to Germany after hitler killed himself the uk did not.

Ireland didn't become a republic until 1949.

I was just coming on to say this ^^.

Dublin is entirely different to the rest of the country and becoming more like London everyday.

Dublin has what the Irish call notions about itself being more cultured than any other county . Dublin, in my experience, has changed dramatically over the last twenty years and has now a lot of social issues.

Most people who are not originally from Dublin would not choose to live in Dublin once they decide to have a family. I know many people living outside of Dublin who feel sorry for those living in Dublin. However when a person born in Dublin moves outside Dublin, they would do anything in their power to get back there. Perhaps that is a city thing though?

Jsmith99 · 20/07/2019 00:44

Ireland is a republic which has no monarchy or aristocracy, but is still struggling to emerge from centuries of dominance by and subservience to the Catholic Church.

The U.K. is a secular country which, at most, pays lip-service to religion but retains a monarchy and still, in the 21st century, allows unelected aristocrats a voice in making its laws. This forelock-tugging deference perpetuates a culture of class-obsession and elitism which holds the country back.

DaftHannah · 20/07/2019 00:44

Flooopers

Know your history. It is well known that Eire remained neutral during WW2. A constitution adopted by the Irish people in 1937 declared Ireland to be “a sovereign, independent, democratic state,” and the Irish Free State was renamed Eire. Eire remained neutral during World War II, and in 1949 the Republic of Ireland Act severed the last remaining link with the Commonwealth.

My Great Grandfather was from Co Waterford and moved North in the late 19th Century as a young man, to work in the shipyards of Belfast. Although now living in England, we still have family all over Ireland as a result. The best things I remember from visiting relatives as a child during the summer holidays are Silvermints and the beaches of Donegal.

VBT2 · 20/07/2019 00:44

Ireland has much better sausages. A million times better. But generally no post codes, I’m always overly concerned whether birthday cards will arrive on time.