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elegancedrink · 17/07/2019 23:01

by history Grin

A bit lighthearted but I’ve noticed that whenever I read/watch historical things I feel emotional.

Don’t think I’ll ever be able to get over the tragedy of Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn’s lives and deaths under Henry, nor some elements of the War of the Roses/the Princes in the tower or the Roman slaves.

Does anyone have any advice on dealing with being overly invested in people who died half a millennium ago Grin

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NoLeopard · 21/07/2019 09:38

It's amazing how current authors and biographers can get us emotionally involved in past lives. As a child history was bone dry and women were a by-line unless you were Elizabeth I or Boudicca. Now we realise no matter how high-born women were, they were all just political pawns. Plantagenet women are so interesting, for me it's Catherine de Valois. So much happened in a relatively short life, I always hope she found a few years happiness with Owen Tudor.

FadedRed · 21/07/2019 22:12

Grimbles my understanding of the history was that JG was named as the successor to Edward VI in his will, he was coerced by his advisors (one of whom was Jane’s FIL), whilst in his final illness. This was to prevent Mary Tudor becoming queen and reverting the country back to Catholicism in the Roman Church, i.e. with the Pope in charge. Jane is quoted as saying she had no right to the throne when she was told she was queen after Edward died.
Mary’s followers overcame Jane’s and the ring leaders were executed, but Jane and her husband were found guilty of high treason and condemned to death. Mary knowing that Jane and Dudley had been used by their elders rather than culpable of the plot against Mary did not have them executed, but imprisioned them in the Tower of London. However the next year, Jane’s father became involved in the Wyatt rebellion against Mary’s plan to marry Phillip of Spain, so Jane and Dudley were executed as Mary realised Jane would be an ongoing threat to Mary’s throne if she continued to ‘allow’ Jane to live. Her father was executed for his part in the rebellion too. Poor Jane was only 17/18 and Dudley a year older when they died. She was badly treated by her ambitious parents, often beaten and the only real kindness shown to her as a child was the time she was in the household of Katherine Parr, the widow of Henry VIII.

Grimbles · 21/07/2019 22:18

Faded yes, you are right. LJG was executed because her father continued to rebel against Mary.

NoLeopard · 21/07/2019 22:57

LJG's younger sister Katherine had a horrible life too, basically lived under house arrest until she died in her twenties.

lauryloo · 21/07/2019 23:01

I just finished watching the white queen (only 6 years late) and was so upset about Richard iii dying at the end.

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