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Mothers not working raises risk of dementia

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user87382294757 · 17/07/2019 14:54

In the news today- AIBU that it maybe depends what you do otherwise? Like if you study, exercise as these are all linked with lower rates of dementia. Any thoughts?

www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/women-who-work-for-a-salary-see-slower-memory-decline-in-old-age-reducing-their-risk-of-dementia-a-new-study-suggests/2019/07/15/c1819880-a72a-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.df090af657bc

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MargoLovebutter · 17/07/2019 15:23

Being born significantly raises the risk of dementia! Grin

SnuggyBuggy · 17/07/2019 15:27

Do you have to earn enough money for it to be worth going back to work or just any money?

Bourbonbiccy · 17/07/2019 15:27

My nan has dementia, she is currently 94, she worked pretty consistently throughout her life.

My grandad had dementia worked constantly since he was 15 until 65.

I think it genes and a bit of luck personally. (Or unlucky as my case may be with our family history )

brotown · 17/07/2019 15:27

User, do you know anyone with dementia?

Teddybear45 · 17/07/2019 15:28

That doesn’t explain why the risk of dementia in countries where women don’t tend to work for payment but still live long lives is so low. India, East Asia, all have lower dementia rates despite rising life expectancies; and this protective effect is often seen in their kids whether they are born in those countries or not. So clearly there is either a genetic or metabolic reason to explain this.

Bourbonbiccy · 17/07/2019 15:30

Let's keep banging the drum though, that everybody should be working all of their lives, God forbid some people actually take time to enjoy their life 😂😂😂

Tobebythesea · 17/07/2019 15:31

I worked in a memory service for years. Trust me when I say it impacts all walks of life, all backgrounds, everyone. Lifestyle choices are important but they are in every disease.

Tobebythesea · 17/07/2019 15:34

Age is the biggest risk factor for dementia.

SnuggyBuggy · 17/07/2019 15:35

Also let's be honest some jobs are bloody mind numbing. We don't all get to chase our passions in the workplace

drizzleinbrizzle · 17/07/2019 16:03

Does this include vascular dementia, or just Alzheimers? My mum had vascular and we were told it had a different causes to alzheimers. DM worked all through her life btw.

user87382294757 · 17/07/2019 16:22

Do I know anyone with it? Yes, my grandmother had it - she used to think we were evacuees as children. So yes I do and have had testing for genes and I have the APOE4.

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Siameasy · 17/07/2019 17:32

Alzheimer’s is being referred to as Type 3 diabetes in some quarters due to insulin resistance being thought to be the cause. I would imagine some people are genetically predisposed to insulin resistance (I believe I am so have taken steps to avoid it) but you can reduce the risks through life style

user87382294757 · 17/07/2019 17:36

Yes, that is interesting about the Type 3 diabetes, the APOE4 is to do with cholesterol and also doubles risk for heart disease....so I also am trying to take care to avoid metabolic syndrome. I get blood tests yearly for cholesterol, blood sugars etc and they seem good so far.

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Teddybear45 · 17/07/2019 17:58

It’s a link specifically between those with the gene for Alzeimers also having increased insulin resistance in the brain. The risk factors between Alzeimers and Type 2 diabetes are still sketchy - mainly because Alzeimers tends to still be seen in lower numbers in Asia despite people being predisposed to Type 2 diabetes / insulin resistance due to genetic, metabolic, and lifestyle factors.

It’s the opposite to Motor Neurone disease which seems to prefer healthy thin to lower BMI people with ‘strong metabolisms’.

Vascular dementia is very common amongst people with low blood pressure / severe varicose veins / some types of clotting disorders and heart issues.

Siameasy · 17/07/2019 18:01

I’ve never thought to get tested (was it via your GP?)
My Nan had dementia but lived to 99 which TBH is too old (she had had enough for quite some time before she went)
We have a familial tendency to the Apple shape and cravings for starch and sugar so I suspect metabolic issues. I think insulin resistance is responsible for a lot of problems

user87382294757 · 17/07/2019 18:11

I got tested with 23andme. I only have one copy of APOE4, two copies is rarer and higher odds. I am trying intermittent fasting and following a low carb med type diet as much as I can. and exercise. My parents seem Ok so far (late 70s) There is a lot online with people taking supplements etc

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user87382294757 · 17/07/2019 18:12

It is interesting, there are others with APOE4 in Africa who seem not to be affected by it, but maybe their diet or other genes protect them. It just increases the risk but is not deterministic (like for example the early onset prenesilin type genes)

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Siameasy · 17/07/2019 20:58

I’m the same as you-Low carb. On the other thread someone said eliminating gluten could help. Weirdly one of the push factors for me going low carb was me realising that eating gluten caused me brain fog.
Regarding the Africans I wonder what it is..our diet? Sugar?

user87382294757 · 19/07/2019 10:47

Some people think the genetics might be different or maybe the diet.

I liked this study, have a look - about lifestyle

jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2738355

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Kokeshi123 · 19/07/2019 10:53

You would need some sort of intervention trial to prove causation. There is a correlation here, but dementia is correlated with all sorts of things from poorer physical health to lower IQ, all of which may be connected with how likely a woman is to work.

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