Love Island - overheard

[Somersetlady]

I am in the park with two young DC.

Ive a broken leg at the moment so am static and sat next to a group of five young girls approximate age 13.

The are talking about love Island. Amongst other negative derogatory comments on the contestants One of them just said “Anna’s an ugly fuck”

AIBU to think that the world is becoming a sad place for the future generations.

Becoming sad from when?

People spoke like this when I was 13 in the early 90s. Often attack someones looks.

My mum suffered horrendous bullying in the 60s.

Personally, I think Anna is not a nice person. I dont like her. Hopefully those teens will learn to not be so derogatory about someones looks.

Though I have never quite understand why it's ok to say you dont like someone, but not ok to say you dont think they are attractive.

Teenagers say rude things about reality TV show contestants. Shock.

@Shoxfordian it was the vitriol and aggression they said it with as well as the language.

Ah ok
Still doesn't sound massively shocking to me, you want to try getting on the bus with the teenagers in south london.

it was the vitriol and aggression they said it with as well as the language.

Lots Teenagers were full of vitriol and aggression in the 90s and the 80s.

Its not great but I dont think it proves anything about the world becoming sad for future generations.

Its not a great way to talk about people, but sadly probably not new.

The vitriol against contestants on the MN threads, from grown adults, has surprised me.

And Protein, I'm not sure why you needed to include the fact you dislike Anna in your answer. How is that relevant to someone calling her an ugly fuck?

It’s not nice, but I don’t think it’s unique to this generation - teens have always been capable of being nasty, and have always sworn for effect.

People have said this shit from thr year dot. It doesn't matter if it's love island or your next door neighbour. It's nothing new.

She isn't a decent or nice person and looks pumped up / odd. But that's not kind to say and sadly the people who go on those shows have huge egos and are vulnerable.

Chilled I don't think the OP is asking if she is actually an ugly fuck?

(You really don't know if she's a decent person from a heavily edited tv site either!)

AndProtein, I'm not sure why you needed to include the fact you dislike Anna in your answer. How is that relevant to someone calling her an ugly fuck?

Because I was saying that I dont like her, But theres no need for people to be as rude as they have been and I hope those teens eventually realise you can not like someone without being rude.

And also the next paragraph, I wonder why it's ok to say you dont like someone, but not ok to say you dont like their looks.

Or maybe it's the way its said.

Although on the love island threads, you cant comment on looks without someone telling you to post a selfie so people can judge you.

It's odd that it's ok to not like someone but not ok to find them unattractive

Proteinshakesandovieshat I think thats because there’s sometimes an inherent nastiness about criticising how someone looks, people can’t always help how they look or the features they’re born with. It seems shallow to focus on looks, especially on public forums.

someone with a mean personality or a bad attitude who does bad things - that’s generally seen as acceptable to criticise because they’re behaving badly and can normally control their actions - it’s a choice they’ve made.

Yabu, you’ve made a passing judgment on them, they’ve made a passing judgement on them...

Fugly, is in the eye of the beholder.

Lots of people on the LI threads criticise people. It's possibly to do it without vitriol!

I saw the selfie comment once, I think when someone was gleefully insulting a contestant. It does make you wonder about whose behind the keyboard when they're laying into going women. Same way you wonder at the people who leap to label contestants nasty bullies, when they invest so much time into slagging them off online. A pretty nasty hobby!

There didn't seem any need to bring up whether you think Anna was nice, and there still doesn't after your explanation. Your opinion of someone should have no relevance to how appropriate or common it is to hear women insulted as 'ugly fuck's.

To be fair wether you find anna attractive or not. She has chosen to look like that. Her face and body has had a lot of work.

I am not saying that's a bad thing. I had my nose done, after it being broken and wonky and had my boobs reduced and lifted.

I am not saying she should have had work done, but how she looks is a lot of choice. Not all choice, but a decent amount of it.

But personally, I would rather someone negatively commented on my looks than my personality. So it was interesting to me that saying you dont like someone is ok. Commenting on their looks is not.

young women not 'going women' (in case that's a slur I'm not aware of!)

I don’t actually watch love island.

I just thought it was so sad these young women to be something their time sat there talking about other young people in such a negative way. The fact they are even watching this crap is depressing enough as it is but to get so involved and be so bitchy disappoints me.

Maybe i should have popped over and said “you’re not exactly a stunner yourself” to give her food for thought

—this being MN i am going to point out that the last sentence was tongue in cheek—

Proteinshakesandovieshat I guess best practice is just to avoid being nasty about people generally. If someone has done something to hurt you or caused you trouble then you can criticise them in a civilised way and point out that they’re behaving badly, but slagging someone off unprompted in a nasty way isn’t really necessary.

Sparklesocks I agree. As I said , I may not like her bit dont like the nastiness directed at them.

I was just wondering about the fact that commenting on looks is a massive no no. But commenting and judging their personality is fine.

OP is judging these teenagers by overheating a small interaction and is judging them. And also using them an an example of how society is disintegrating.

Sadly it's not a new thing. I was horrendously bullied for my appearance at school in the early-mid 90s.

It is very sad it's not a new thing and that people get bullied so badly. A lot of young girls are immature and insecure, trying to fit in.

A lot grow out of it and realise it's unkind and unnecessary, those that don't seem to gravitate towards the love island threads!