To be really annoyed by M&S’s LittleShop?

[CraicMammy]

www.marksandspencer.com/c/food-to-order/little-shop

It’s such a waste of plastic and the cardboard shop costs £10!

No one needs this and it’s such a waste.

M&S say you can return the plastic toys in store to be recycled into playground toys, but that will ultimately end up in landfill presumably. And it assumes all items are returned for recycling, which with the best will in the world is overly optimistic.

You receive a collectible for each £20 spent, there are 25 items to collect. So you will need to spend at least £500 to get them all!

When the World is unable to safely dispose of the plastic we have created already, we don’t need more. Poor show M&S!!

If you claim to be fully committed to the eco-friendly lifestyle you can't just pick and choose what you find offensive and what you don't.

Has anyone, one single person, on this thread claimed to be fully committed to the eco-friendly lifestyle? Has anyone claimed to be perfect?

You pick and choose. You recycle. You don’t care about m&s. You picked and chose recycle. You didn’t pick unnecessary plastic tat.

Has anyone, one single person, on this thread claimed to be fully committed to the eco-friendly lifestyle?

One would assume that if you are starting petitions, writing letters of complaint or lobbying MPs - you are pretty committed to the cause.

One would assume that if you are starting petitions, writing letters of complaint or lobbying MPs - you are pretty committed to the cause.

That’s hilarious, the last attempt to try and make your claims a bit more credible. One would assume that if you bother to recycle, you’re also pretty committed to the cause, otherwise why bother? Going by your logic, you should just not recycle if you don’t care about m&s. All or nothing, just as you wanted it.

Most people, including you, do the best they can. Imagine a world where most people did the best they could and at the same time protested against more unnecessary plastic crap being forced on the world. Would that not be a lot more proactive that doing the best you can and NOT protesting?

One would assume that if you bother to recycle, you’re also pretty committed to the cause, otherwise why bother?

What a weird thing to say! Of course you still bother!
My objection is still aimed at people who claim to be virtuous but are not really.. As I said WAY up thread: those who fill their trolly with plastic wrapped food at M&S (hard to buy anything in their food hall that isn't) and then get to the tills and throw their arms up at the free plastic giveaways.
I don't see how that is so hard to understand.

Sure. As far as I can see this was your first post:

Do none of your children play with toys made out of plastic? Ever?

All or nothing. If you care about this campaign then your children should never have any plastic toys. And then later on, called us hypocrites.

I don’t think anyone has said they willingly support all the plastic wrap m&s uses but scoff at this one thing. I think most people are annoyed that so many plastic already exists so why add more? Especially more shit, tiny pieces of tat.

But no, we’re all hypocrites. Except you.

What a weird thing to say!

Also, those were your exact words, I just repeated them to show you how ridiculous it was to suggest not giving a shit unless you’re totally eco-friendly.

I have know these campaigns very well as I work in the fmcg industry. Not on the retailer side but for a food manufacturer.
When New World (New Zealand) did this, (3 times I believe) it went absolutely berserk.
Kids loved them. Actually so did adults. No different to Sylvanian families at all. Little food items collected, played with and kept.
My daughter still has some in her dolls house.

Coles then did it in Australia - which did get some negativity around the plastic, but overall was a success.

M&S have mistimed this campaign and potentially their consumers are not quite the right target market. But I think most of you on here bemoaning the horrors and atrocities of a small plastic toy and saying you don’t understand the appeal will be surprised to see how many people don’t share this view.

There are more pressing concerns related to plastic and packaging than this marketing campaign - like the ludicrous packaging of fresh fruit and vegetables, continued use of single use plastic bags despite the ban, the so-called biodegradable plastics which are actually very damaging and the future consequences of everyone thinking paper is
‘Environmentally friendly’ and demanding it.

Pumper
You keep saying the same thing! You have chosen to respond to my posts and keep making the same point which I disagree with!

I don't know what you want me to say! You are right and I am wrong? What do you want to achieve?

MrsLion: I think most of you on here bemoaning the horrors and atrocities of a small plastic toy and saying you don’t understand the appeal will be surprised to see how many people don’t share this view.

There are more pressing concerns related to plastic and packaging than this marketing campaign - like the ludicrous packaging of fresh fruit and vegetables, continued use of single use plastic bags despite the ban, the so-called biodegradable plastics which are actually very damaging and the future consequences of everyone thinking paper is
‘Environmentally friendly’ and demanding it.

This. I agree entirely.

You have chosen to respond to my posts and keep making the same point which I disagree with!

Which point do you disagree with?

But no, we’re all hypocrites. Except you.

They clearly don't know their target audience 😂 have seen more concern about the environment on MN than anywhere else online!

Now, if they had made little wooden toys 😏

There are more pressing concerns related to plastic and packaging than this marketing campaign - like the ludicrous packaging of fresh fruit and vegetables, continued use of single use plastic bags despite the ban, the so-called biodegradable plastics which are actually very damaging and the future consequences of everyone thinking paper is
‘Environmentally friendly’ and demanding it.

But most people know about this already, it’s already in existence. I think most people on this thread are objecting to M&S introducing more unnecessary plastic at a time when they should be reducing it.

* But no, we’re all hypocrites. Except you.

Do you still think everyone who objects to this is a hypocrite? Still hypocritical to change one thing instead of everything or nothing?

Or do you mean you don’t think YOU are a hypocrite despite doing the thing you’re accusing everyone else of?

WhiteDust was pointing out she does her bit, but is not perfect.
She thinks this M&S campaign is not particularly offensive compared to the multiple excess plastic use going on in our society.
It’s not that hard to understand Pumper.

Do you still think everyone who objects to this is a hypocrite?

Of course not. Only those who fill their trolly full of plastic wrapped food and throw their arms in the air because they've just been offered a miniature plastic toy!

MrsLion it was more the name calling and ridicule I was objecting too. I already said upthread I understood WhiteDust’s point, although I disagree with it.

WhiteDust was pointing out she does her bit, but is not perfect.
She thinks this M&S campaign is not particularly offensive compared to the multiple excess plastic use going on in our society.
It’s not that hard to understand Pumper.

Thank you for that Lion. I'm starting to lose the will to live.

Of course not. Only those who fill their trolly full of plastic wrapped food and throw their arms in the air because they've just been offered a miniature plastic toy!

And those whose kids have ever had plastic toys.

Sure it’s more plastic use and some people will hate it and boycott it. I get that.

My point is that there is an assumption on this thread that everyone feels the same. I’m just pointing out that plenty of people will love it.
My experience (although a few years old and from another part of the world) is that the campaign will be a success and many people will consider this small fry in huge issue of a wider plastic problem.

I’m just pointing out that plenty of people will love it.
My experience (although a few years old and from another part of the world) is that the campaign will be a success and many people will consider this small fry in huge issue of a wider plastic problem.

I’m sure you’re right, I know loads of people who buy the freebie toy magazines without ever giving it a second’s though. I still think it’s worth signing a petition though.

it was more the name calling and ridicule I was objecting too. I already said upthread I understood WhiteDust’s point, although I disagree with it.

Who have I 'name called'?
I said that certain actions were 'f'ing ridiculous' IMO but no personal attacks.
I'm going to have to check now...

And those whose kids have ever had plastic toys.

You've lost me...

That was your first contribution to the thread, remember. I copied it earlier. All or nothing.