If you don’t have a problem with milkshaking, how do you feel about this?

[Jillyhilly]

I was struck by the fact that some mumsnetters didn’t seem particularly bothered by assault when it’s “just” a milkshake - particularly when the target of that milkshake is someone whose politics they don’t agree with.

I just wondered if the latest milkshaking attacks recipe - adding quick drying concrete - might change minds?

A group of masked Antifa “protestors”, attacked Andy Ngo- a right-leaning journalist with Quilette - in Portland, that lovely hotbed of radical left wing politics.

Ngo was punched and kicked. Eggs and concrete-infused milkshake was chucked at him. (When wet, concrete acts as a chemical that burns skin.) But hey, it’s all perfectly understandable because Antifa didn’t like the fact that he’s a conservative. And, understandably, wanted to silence him. So they attacked him. A whole masked gang of them against a small, effete gay Vietnamese immigrant. He spent the night in hospital with a bleed on the brain.

That was day 1. On day 2, they beat up an elderly man with a crowbar. All in the name of anti-facism. Heroic!

Did anyone really think that milkshaking wasn’t always going to lead to something worse? And what the hell is going on in Portland? And why are some left-wing journalists celebrating Ngo’s attack? And why in the world are people are worried about their kids being radicalised by little conservative Ben Shapiro when they really ought to be looking in the opposite direction?

There are always twats who'll escalate. I still think that a fresh milkshake acts as a good tool for humiliating people who would very much like to kill everyone who isn't them. Perhaps if Hitler had been ridiculed a bit more we wouldn't have spent the 30s and 40s killing people in their millions.

It's been shown this was made up. Images on social media were taken from a stock images website.

Link here for more details - twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1145375167004184578

Extremity is never good, whether it's hard left or hard right.

Milkshaking is childish and doesn't further any kind of agenda.

Bit of a difference between throwing a milkshake at someone and literally beating them up and lobbing concrete at them.

Ngo is an fascist.

www.wsj.com/articles/a-visit-to-islamic-england-1535581583

I don't condone violence, it's never the answer. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over that scumbag.

It's a bit of a stretch to conflate throwing a drink over someone with beating someone up and chucking concrete at them. They're not the same people doing those two things, and the people who think one of those acts is an ok thing to do are unlikely to think the other is too.

NoBaggyPants

Why does that article bother you?

Why does it make the writer a 'fascist'?

Isn't a fascist someone who wants to shut down free speech and different opinions??

Seriously, Disgrace

The antifascists activists usually are opposite to what they should be, they hate free speech, protect hateful religious scumbags., And generally if you don't believe what the believe they hate you, yep pretty close to the thing they hate.

We shouldn't be throwing milkshakes at anyone anyone who thinks otherwise is a idiot, we live in democratic country's is this best you can do how about question and debate them.

Famously Nick Griffin went on question time all the antifa were protesting when in fact it was best thing they could have wanted, he destroyed his self in open debate.

There's no evidence that any milkshake contained cement - www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/30/26731412/portland-police-offer-no-proof-that-protesters-had-milkshakes-with-quick-dry-cement

And no, antifa are not fascists, try harder 👀

Still cool with milkshakes, thanks

Ngo's views are irrelevant here. It is the absolute mob mentality - toxic, violent and completely convinced that there actions are not only justifiable but necessary - that make antifa dangerous. When you strip of the masks you are often faced with white, entitled males. There is absolutely nothing progressive about their movement.

Antifa represent a growing (and worrying) tendency on the left to just shut down any disagreement - from doxing, to no-platforming, hounding people out of political parties etc - all of these behaviours are inherently illiberal, yet are undertaken with such moral conviction.

NoBaggyPants has no idea what a fascist is.

And no, antifa are not fascists

They blatantly are.

It's not antifa running concentration camps, holding journalists at the border or cosying up to rightwing authoritarians and dictators

Didnt happen, it was made up. Next.

I really fancy a milkshake now.

And unless you believe Antifa to support extreme nationalism, militarism, state monopolys, sexism, ethnic cleansing and racism, you dont know what you're talking about throwing around 'fascists'.

www.dailydot.com/layer8/concrete-milkshake-hoax-portland-antifa/

How do you feel about people who lie to protect the far right?

Assault is wrong. Even with milkshake.

@Patroclus but antifa are contributing to a growing culture where using violence / silencing tactics is OK. Nothing progressive can be achieved if your only tactic is violence.

Antifa are protesting against actual fascists. If the fascists weren't there - putting children in cages, prosecuting women for pregnancy loss, attacking synagogues and mosques with guns and bombs - there would be no antifa.

It's not antifa creating a violent culture, it's fascists actually killing people, and calling for people to be classed as inhuman.

How can you draw an equivalence?

It's not antifa creating a violent culture

Leftist opposite world. Up is down, black is white, hot is cold. Attacking people in the street because they disagree with you isn't violence.

Antifa are protesting against actual fascists.

Antifa are literally beating people up on the streets because they don’t like their opinions. They are using violence because they don’t want to hear their viewpoints.

You are confused, to say the least.