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Still Shaking Hours Later - DP: “You’re a fucking whore”

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Asw457 · 30/06/2019 04:24

It’s been over 12 hours now and I am still shaking at home.

Sorry for long post but do not want to drip feed:

For the last year, DP and I had our mobiles on the same plan that was auto debited from my checking account.

Shortly after we did that, I got a new job which provided me with a new phone and paid all costs associated with that phone and I essentially turned off my old phone and stopped using it.

Each month I would see that we were being charged ~£100. It seemed expensive but since my DP needed to use his phone, I couldn’t figure out a way to log in and check why that was the case, so just assumed that was the plan we were on.

It’s now been a year, and I asked DP if he could please pay me back for the mobile phone bill that had been coming out of my account. Given what I had seen coming out of my account over the last several months, I asked for 1,000 and then another 300 to take care of the next 3 months of mobile bills.

Today on the way to brunch, I decided to call the phone company while in the car to get my online username set up, make sure the June bill was paid and finally ask why it was so expensive. Midway through the conversation DP grabbed the phone and started talking to the customer service woman. I thought nothing of it as I had hoped it could get switched over to his name anyway.

After he hung up, he threw the phone at me, and started screaming at me, hitting the steering wheel, saying, you fucking cunt, you whore, you really thought you could get away with it didn’t you.

I was so scared as he was driving and I said, I don’t understand what’s happened? And he kept yelling at me, calling me a thief and a liar and a whore, saying I am no better than a common whore that sleeps for money. During this time he picked up a glass and a plastic water bottle that were in the console and emptied them on to my head and sprayed them on my clothes and then threw the empty ones at me and my face.

It turns out that of that £100 monthly bill I got charged each month, actually £75-85 was my phone because I had been on a more expensive plan and when he transferred me the £1300 to reimburse me for the last year he had overpaid me.

I kept telling him I was sorry and I had no idea that it was my phone that was so expensive, I hadn’t seen a real bill since last May. I was trying to tell him that it wasn’t malicious or scheming on my end but just an innocent mistake.

And he just kept yelling at me and telling me I was no different than his two major exes and I was just a money grubbing whore that thought she could get away with stealing money from him and taking advantage of him.

I was so terrified in the car that as soon as we got home I went inside and he drove off. He has since texted and said I was a liar and a thief and that he can never trust me for what I did and our relationship is off.

I am still shaking hours later and just don’t understand what I did which was so wrong. I could understand maybe feeling annoyed for having overpaid me, but I had always told him previously that I don’t have access to our online bills, it was just an auto debit.

I truly felt scared and could not make him see that it was just a mistake. If it were me, I would have gotten off the phone, had me set up the online login, figured out how much was owed to him and directly paid him.

We had been going through a rough patch but this was truly scary.

So AIBU to think his response did not justify what happened or reading this interaction do you think I am to blame for not having spent the time checking what the breakdown of the bill was? I truly did not even think about it that way as I hadn’t even touched that phone since last year.

OP posts:
goodfornothinggnome · 30/06/2019 12:44

Erm, two points here.

You are not safe with this man. Take that as you will, but are you honestly willing to spend your life with a man who is able to react this way? When he will act in such an aggressive and abusive way, after he has jumped to his own conclusion?

Are you willing to have children with a man who can act this way with grown ups?

You've already said this happened a few months ago and he blamed you for pushing his buttons.

Hes launching objects in your direction.

I really wish youd take the advice here, and leave but you wont. That much is obvious.

So I want to give you some advice, because you WILL need it.
Always keep money that he doesnt know about,
Start keeping a diary. In that diary write about the first time, what happened, the things he told you like how you pushed his buttons.

Write down what happened this time, how much he will shame you for "stealing" from him, about what a whore you are. Then write about the next time, because as bad as it is this time, itll be worse. Then write the next time. You'll start to get bruises and markings from his assaults, take photos of them and on the back of those photos, write how they happened.
One day, that'll be your evidence so the police can help keep him away from you, because by that point you'll be the worthless bitch that wronged him and made him look like an abuser, and he will want to hurt you more than ever before, when you start to take your own life back.

The man needs counselling and anger management, you could also do with some counselling if you cant see this is the start of an abusive relationship.

The very fact that you've been paying his phone bill for 13? Months and he hasn't asked what he owes or paid any money until you asked- shows he is happy to take advantage financially.

The screaming and name calling and gas lighting are verbal abuse.

The throwing glass and plastic containers at you, and soaking you with water in the car? Physical abuse.

Just leaving you and oh were over- when he has no intention of leaving. Believe me.

He is an abuser through and through.

Motoko · 30/06/2019 12:46

You will stay with him because you don't think this was all that bad. you've heard of women being severely beaten and he didn't do that.

That's exactly what I used to tell myself. At that point, it was only slaps or pushing, and yet even when he punched me to the floor, it still took a while for me to leave. But I did start disengaging then, and did eventually leave him.

@CustardySergeant It's just a tactic, to make her beg him to stay. It's a classic abuser's tactic, straight out of the abuser's handbook. When he finally "concedes" to stay, he will use it as a way to control her more. "Do what I say, or I'll leave you for good."

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 30/06/2019 12:49

I think jemima comes from a place of painful experiences(either as a victim or as somone really close to one) rather than patronising. And she's not even wrong. That's the pattern abused women often follow. It's the pattern a lot of posters on this site have followed themselves. Some might be short and snappy because they know what comes next and it's not pretty and in many cases down right dangerous.

Bloomburger · 30/06/2019 12:50

Great measure of a partner's behaviour is to ask yourself what action you'd take if a stranger had approached you in the street and behaved in the same way.

Then factor in that this person is supposed to love and respect you.

What action do you think you should take now?

Paddy1234 · 30/06/2019 12:51

This thread is so completely and utterly sad
😢

EggysMom · 30/06/2019 12:57

The OP won't be back in this thread. She's minimised his behaviour and decided this was an out-of-character outburst, rather than a sign of abuse to come.

Let's hope there's not another thread in about two months' time, possibly with a name change, regarding his second outburst ....

AhhhHereItGoes · 30/06/2019 12:58

He sounds unhinges and dangerous.

If DH has done what you did I'd simply have said "You should've checked - you'll be having a big paying over bill for the next few months" and that would be it!

xsquared · 30/06/2019 12:59

Do you have friends or family who you can go to right now.

His reaction is not normal. Please do not have anything more to do with him. He clearly hates women and he will make you miserable.

You know you deserve better than to be treated like this.

Daysofpearlyspencer · 30/06/2019 13:00

He was looking for a reason to abuse you and lucky for him the phone problem appeared.

He will be looking for other reasons to do it again and blame you for "pushing his buttons" whilst you "walk on egg shells"

All classic stuff that I know to my personal cost both physically, emotionally and financially...

Keep an escape fund and a bag packed at a friends house so you can walk out at a moments notice

NaviSprite · 30/06/2019 13:04

I do hope you have taken the advice given OP.

I too have a sneaking suspicion that the thread has been abandoned by OP at that’s so sad. If you do come back at any point, I hope you got out @Asw457 I really do Flowers

happytobemrsg · 30/06/2019 13:11

I think you’re right @EggysMom this thread is really scary

Sagradafamiliar · 30/06/2019 13:13

But can these people ever change?

Yes. They get worse. More aggressive. If you stay now, it lets him know what he can get away with and any horror (if any) he feels at what he's done will be dulled as it's the new acceptable. He will put his hands on you next time.

Jux · 30/06/2019 13:16

He's dangerous. He'll escalate and be hitting you soon. You can wait for that - by which time you'll be excusing it with "no bones broken" or similar- or you can thank your lucky stars that you know for sure now what's in store and get away, very very far away.

howdyalikemenow · 30/06/2019 13:23

Op I struggled with a relationship like this for several years before I could see it for what it was. Please leave. It WILL escalate.

bringincrazyback · 30/06/2019 13:32

Please get as far away as you can from this man. So you made a mistake, that in no way justifies what he said and did. A normal loving partner would never react like that. This can only ever get worse. Run and don't look back.

Rezie · 30/06/2019 13:36

This is the most disturbing thing that I've read here. Not that he said these things, but how he has managed to manipulate Op so submissive that even verbal abuse and humiliation doesn't really effect her.

OP, you said that he said the relationship is over. That means the hard part is done. He ended it, so all you need to do is get out of his house. Cut ties and never talk to him again. You didn't do anything wrong
He is an abusive jerk. It doesn't matter that these happen rarely. They should never happen. There are now excuses. It is absolutely ridiculous that you didn't contact the company sooner and quit your contract, but it is irrelevant. If it wasn't the phone, it would have been the way you peel apples. It has happened before and it will happen again. Get out.

Jemima232 · 30/06/2019 13:42

@YourSarcasmisDripping

I do come from a place of personal experience. My previous post wasn't intended to be smug at all. It was just a reflection of how most women behave after the first, frightening episode.

I said that the OP will stay with her abuser because most women do, the first time, as they cannot believe that things will get worse.

And yes, I hope she'll post again for help and advice when he's more violent the next time, and we will be here to listen.

Nobody will say I TOLD YOU SO. Well, I hope not, anyway.

The OP seems to have disappeared. I imagine this has been difficult for her to read. Or alternatively, her DP has returned and is kindly agreeing to stay, despite her shortcomings.

LuluJakey1 · 30/06/2019 13:44

Pack your bags and leave while he is not there. Sort all of your paperwork out asap eg any direct debits towards bills /mortgage . You have no claim on the house so it is pretty straightforward.
Never speak to him again, never, never.

He is abusive and will assault you - 100% certainty about that. It might take him a while but he will.

Leave , block and never look back or think about him again.

Jemima232 · 30/06/2019 13:47

@daisychain01

I certainly won't say I Told You So.

I was just going through all the things I used to say to myself when my Ex started to be abusive. I wasn't being clever or smug.

I'm pretty sure that the OP will, in fact, stay with her abuser and that things will get worse.

He'll be back. His kind always come back.

But I will help the OP if she asks for help again. I wasn't being smug - just realistic.

Wereeaglesdare · 30/06/2019 13:51

Please OP for your mental health and for your physical health you have to leave this man.

It starts off small, the odd comment "your a bitch like all the others" then little things slamming the door throwing things at the wall. Then it builds, hands around your throat, spitting at you. All the while you are confused.

Why is he doing this? Does he not know I love him? He must need reassurance. That other girl treated him really bad so this must be why?

The next thing you know you are trying to justify in your head why your lip is split open. And you hate him. You really hate him but you love him because he filled your head with some fantasy. And you did have that big fight right and some people loose their temper really badly? And his mum abandoned him when he was a kid so that's messed him up he just needs someone to be there for him?

Then all of a sudden he randomly boots you in the face or throws you against a wall. And then you can't justify it any longer. You know this man will kill you and when something eventually gives..
And by gives I mean something big bones, split open head, cut eye, split lip

You are left a fraction of the woman you once were not able to cope with small situations. Nervous around shouting. People pleasing. Not even knowing your own mind, because that fire that you always had in your belly the one that used to spur you on has been knocked out of you.

And it's a slow path OP it's a slow path that is so hard and your so alone and broken and you push everyone away. Please spot this bright red flag and please run a mile for all the women like me on here are telling you from experience this will fuck you up. He has always been this person and will continue to always be.

The truth is he is a hater of women. Please don't let yourself be hated. You deserve more for yourself. Don't let your fire go out. When we are little girls we are all told someone is going to rescue you and in our head it's a built in belief, he's my soul mate he is going to save me. But almost always in life that person is not coming. You have to rescue yourself.

Things my abuser took from me:

My dignity
My self respect
My fire
My career
My fantasy
My self worth
My memories
Parts of my heart which will always be shut
Places which I cannot go

I wish you luck OP if you stay with this man. Please atleast never stop telling people what is happening.

TheTitOfTheIceberg · 30/06/2019 13:52

OP, you’ve probably managed to convince yourself that he’s a nice guy who just has an out of character outburst.

It’s actually the other way round. He’s an abusive man who would behave like this all the time if he could get away with it. The “niceness” is just a control tactic, and that’s the part that’s out of character because he is not nice at all.

Stay safe, OP.

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 13:53

If you stay, the boundaries of the relationship will have shifted so that all that is within the boundaries
This!

Tistheseason17 · 30/06/2019 13:56

Do not make excuses or rationalise his behaviour.
My DH and I argue but we never speak to each other likes this or pour bottles of water on each other or throw stuff.
Step away from the abuser. This is why he has ex GFs - follow their lead.

Changedforhairpost · 30/06/2019 13:56

He's a prick.

OP there are 10 types of adult abuse, they are simple to google. You have described at least 2 of them. Physical abuse is only one of the 10 & yes it does include throwing things and emptying water on you.

You need to leave. You are now a victim of domestic violence.

If you are minimising it (as we all do in the early stages) then at least make plans. Look on your council website & find out who the domestic abuse services are, you might not need a refuge in the middle of the night but then again you might. Put some phone numbers in your mobile, you can disguise them as names if you think he goes through your phone. At least have a plan sweetheart, you're going to need it one day. Open a new bank account just in your name, he doesn't need to know about it, arrange for statements to be emailed etc. If you don't use it then it doesn't matter, just have it there ready for when you do.

And don't be afraid to post again when it happens again, you're not the only one who doesn't leave immediately. There will be no blaming here as leaving can be difficult & it's wrapped up in very complex emotions.

We understand that, it's just we can see what's going on whereas you currently cannot xx be safe OP

ScrimshawTheSecond · 30/06/2019 13:58

Nobody should be afraid in a relationship. Not ever. Never.

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