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Mixed signals. Is he flirting or just being nice??

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Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 01:14

How can you tell the difference??
It can be challenging to read this man so... tell me what you think to know where to stand and avoid embarrassment!

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TyneTeas · 29/06/2019 01:21

Do you have any examples? Hard to guess either way otherwise

BitOfFun · 29/06/2019 01:26

Well, we can hardly tell from here, can we?

Sparklesocks · 29/06/2019 01:29

Sometimes it’s both, some people flirt because they enjoy it and the feeling they get even if they’re not that interested in the person.
Only real way to know is to see if it escalates or just continues being harmless borderline flirting.,

IncognitaIgnorama · 29/06/2019 01:34

Depends on the signals he's giving out, probably - but you haven't mentioned these, and you know him and we don't, so go with your gutConfused

VaggieMight · 29/06/2019 01:39

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Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 01:41

Sparklesocks thank you!
IncognitaIgnorama thank you too but I'm so confused that I don't trust my gut feeling this time...

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Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 01:56

We work together very part time.
He is very polite and kind but I notice he feels more and more comfortable and is sharing personal things close to his heart...
He also mentioned that is therapy for him to spend time talking with me. I must admit we enjoy the time we spend together and I can feel a special friendship but... not sure what to do about it.

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IncognitaIgnorama · 29/06/2019 02:39

Oh ffs typed a long message and then it didn't post Grin

Very brief version - from what you've said, you can't tell at this stage, I don't think: could be something, could be friendship only.

I would let it continue to develop, and if he becomes flirty (from what you've said, there's no clear evidence of that right now) try to engineer a 1 on 1 off-site lunch/coffee/drink and test the water further.

Or, if you are impatient, do that now - but accept that if he isn't intending to flirt, it could scupper the friendship. Good luck!

Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 02:51

Aww thanks IncognitaIgnorama.

I will let it to continue. What would it be flirty for you? I mean what do you need to listen to confirm someone is flirting, attracted to you?

In the 1 on 1 off site (I've been there before) but how can I test the waters further without being too obvious.
I feel so stupid... and he is gorgeous by the way ha!

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IncognitaIgnorama · 29/06/2019 03:12

Hmmm. I suppose something that can clearly be interpreted as having some kind of more intimate intent? He clearly likes you a lot as a friend, and is very comfortable with and enjoying your company, but there's nothing that sounds like he's testing the water. On the other hand, though (said I'm incredibly helpful Grin) flirtiness isn't necessarily indicative of anything either - he might not be the flirty sort (loads of people aren't) anyway, so absence of flirtiness isn't a bad thing either Grin

So now, in an effort to be super-helpful: if you've done the one to one at work and haven't got clarity: how about the bolder move of suggesting doing something at the weekend - event during the day like beer festival or whatever - so that it could be something mates do (ie reasonable suggestion for two singles to do at the weekend): if he can't/won't, and doesn't offer an alternative after a reasonable amount of time ("Ah, I'd love to but I'm away that weekend. Another time." If no follow up within a week or two, he's not interested in that way. If he says no, but then suggests another similar-type activity down the line, he's potentially interested. Or more intimate actually-definitely date stuff then he definitely is)

Said I'm being helpful Grin

TL:DR Arrange weekend get together -
Blows you off completely - just sees you as a friend
Accepts - still could be either (ditto rescheduling similar) on current evidence
Declines but suggests actual date: definitely not in the friend zone Grin

I recommend next weekend (unless there's something good on near you later today Grin)

IncognitaIgnorama · 29/06/2019 03:29

I'm assuming, btw, that you know he's single by now - men who are being friendly but aren't hitting on you/think you might be interested in them usually manage to shoe-horn in a mention of wife/partner at some stage early in the proceedings!

(I have much previous experience of this prior to being married Grin)

I wouldn't really take my advice, though - many moons ago, I had a lovely, and also flirty friendship with a colleague. I thought I was on the way. Conversation about something blah blah blah "I mean, it's not like you are gay or anything!" (My reputation at university was for an exquisitely tuned gaydar and for being a consummate fag hag) "Err, yes, I am..."

Shocked silence then, "Oh, you really had me going then - haha hah"
"No, I really am,"

Not my finest moment Grin. But I was his Best Woman the following year, and many, many years later, when it actually became legal for him to be in a civil partnership, again. And for a third time when they married Grin

We are still excellent friends, and his husband (and mine) still think it's hilarious that I spent months thinking I was getting somewhere (bastards Grin). And he and I still flirt outrageously too Grin

The moral of this story is that even if it doesn't pan out romantically, you still sound like you are having the basis for an excellent and enduring friendship. And in 35 years time, you could still be close friends. And/Or married to each other Grin

This really is far too late to be up when I've not been drinking, which is clear from the drivel I'm posting Grin. But I think now you have to make a further move and test the waters a bit more obviously! Good luck!

hazandduck · 29/06/2019 03:44

Does the subject often drift in to inappropriate turf?? Any innuendos? Do you laugh together a lot? Does he ever make an excuse to touch you? Or look at you admiringly?

It’s hard to tell from what you’ve written but for me I just know when someone is flirting, it’s an instinctive thing.

Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 09:15

Do you laugh together a lot? YESSS
Or look at you admiringly? YESSS

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Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 09:54

IncognitaIgnorama THANK YOU!!! You are star answering my questions so late in the night.
I guess we are going to be very sleepy today plus this vey hot weather!
I'll keep you posted x

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LaMarschallin · 29/06/2019 10:01

This is really not meant to sound sarcastic, OP, but are you in the USA?
I've found with my N. American friends that there are more set mores in dating than over here. And "flirty" can mean very different things.
Just suggesting you bear cultural differences in mind.

LaMarschallin · 29/06/2019 10:03

Just suggesting you bear cultural differences in mind.
I mean as far as advice here goes.

theWarOnPeace · 29/06/2019 10:06

I can only strongly suggest that you hold back from anything where you’re in any way confused about the man’s feelings and intentions. I’ve never had a good experience with a hard to read/not quite showing he’s interested type of guy. If they’re genuinely into you and want you, they will let you know.

DisputedChair · 29/06/2019 10:16

Hmm, I think women are socialised to think that a man confiding in them about personal stuff is a massive compliment, but in my experience, it can just be self-absorption. Saying that talking to you is like therapy suggests to me that he’s more interested in it’s effect on him than on whether he’s attracting you.

What happens if you dominate the conversation, and talk about things that are personal to you? Is he a good, active listener? Does he remember details the next time you talk!

theWarOnPeace · 29/06/2019 10:22

Yes Disputed yes yes yes absolutely. That’s what it’s been in my experience during late teens/early twenties. All of those mysterious ones who once in a while would use me as ‘therapy’ actually were self-absorbed twats. I convinced myself that I was some kind of prize winner for getting them to open up. Took years to learn how to deal with them and find boyfriends who weren’t emotionally unavailable.

Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 22:53

Disputed Chair
Yes I agree with you. Thank you.
We'll see how it goes...

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Crazyaboutdots · 29/06/2019 22:57

LaMarschallin
I'm not American nor English native but is a long time living in the UK now.

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