To think that the law in US (Alabama) is now insane

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A pregnant woman got into a fight and was shot in the stomach. She lost the child. She’s now being held in jail on manslaughter charges because her fetus died when she was shot and the authorities have decided that the shooter shot her ‘in self defence.’

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/27/alabama-woman-charged-unborn-babys-death-shot-stomach/

From the article

‘In other cases pregnant women have been charged for drug use or a car accident that resulted in the death of a foetus.’

This is a classic example of the inherent hypocrisy in US gun laws. The strong likelihood is that, if guns weren't so easily available, this fight would have ended completely harmlessly. But let's blame the pregnant woman who got shot, not the person who shot her, and definitely not the laws that made it so easy for that person to have a gun.

Yes I agree becles a ‘testing’ case but bizarre for her to be in custody even if we accept that madness !

The person incarcerated is the one who started and continued the fight. She would also be the guilty party in the UK jurisdictions.

Except, without a shot being fired, the shooter could be charged with illegal possession of a handgun! Self defence has to be proportionate - the shooter was not too incapacitated by the attack that she couldn’t take the loaded? gun out of her handbag and use it. I doubt if the victim of the shooting, would guilty of anything in the UK.

So is the crux of the case that she caused the death of her unborn child because her recklessness in starting a fight lead to her stomach being shot at?

You know when you get shot, your baby dies and you’re the one that ends up in prison something is very, very wrong with the ‘system’.

The deep South is hardly renowned for being a part of the 21st century though.

I don't think it was coincidence that the "self defence" shots into her abdomen happened during a fight about the baby's father, do you?

She wouid face jail for her assault on another person though.

She could be charged with assault which would be unlikely to result in a custodial sentence. But, given what she has been through, that would be highly unlikely.

So is the crux of the case that she caused the death of her unborn child because her recklessness in starting a fight lead to her stomach being shot at?

Fraud so, Lizzie.

Under his eye

The person incarcerated is the one who started and continued the fight. She would also be the guilty party in the UK jurisdictions.

She would be "a" guilty party for assault, but that wouldn't prevent the other person also being guilty. It's a basic principle that self defence should be proportionate and, whilst every allowance is made for the heat of the moment, someone shooting another person in the stomach five times would have difficulty in claiming that was proportionate.

Personally I think all this shit is linked to their bizarre adoption system where healthy,white babies are sold to the highest bidder via 'baby brokers'

I'm a twisted old cynic tho.

I don’t understand. What had the fetus possibly done that being shot at was considered self defence? (Defense?)

The shark has been well and truly jumped.