To point out that starting a thread with a negative comment about the Daily Mail does nothing to stop them?

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People keep starting threads with "The Daily Mail are Wankers" and so on in the hope that it will somehow stop them using their thread as "news"

It does nothing. They just fish the bits out that they want to use and ignore the defamatory comments.

They don't copy and paste entire threads you know.

Even a user name like "DailyMailArses" will just result in them saying "A mumsnet user says she hates her neighbour because..."

So stop it.

And YAHOO takes our threads too...so what about them?

A lot of places take threads from here actually, but I think it's more about the fact the DM are scummy cunts.

I don't actually do it myself, but your so stop it makes me want to.

I was wondering about this too; I've seen them screen-grab some quotes before to put within their 'articles' but it'd be a piece of piss for them to simply cut out the 'Daily Mail are a bunch of hoof-wanking-bungle-cunts'?

No opinion but 'hoof wanking bungle cunts' is my new most favourite sentance.

Well it doesn't stop them because Mumsnet own the copyright to your posts and they sell them to the Daily Mail. They've previously confirmed this when I've asked, but funnily enough don't like to advertise it ..

It probably just makes them feel a bit better about it. Sometimes being petty is pleasing.

I thought people were doing it to prove they weren't journalists

They're doing it to signal they're not a journalist, or whatever wanky clickbait writers for that shit-rag are called these days.

So yabu OP, for being a muppet.

I don't actually do it myself, but your so stop it makes me want to

I agree

I’m not much of a thread starter

But fuck me do i want to start one now

It does feel so intrusive though. You should be able to post on a forum like this without the owner of the forum being able to publish your posts elsewhere, particularly in national newspapers that are read by a much wider and different audience to those that would use an online forum like this.

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I didn't think there was copyright on a public forum.

If you don't want it in the Daily Mai/Yahoo etc or discussed on This Morning/Loose Women /Jeremy Vine then don't post it on a public forum. Simple.

Yes, you assign it to Mumsnet when you post. So they own all the posts and can do with them what they like, including selling interesting threads to the DM.

MN is a public forum. Fair game to anybody, not just the DM.

They might be on a sticky wicket if they started cutting and pasting posts but there is nothing to stop them reporting what has been said on MN.

Sparkling brook, that's true but most people seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that posts are stolen when they're actually being sold. I think internet sites should be forced to be more open about this.

Mumsnet own the copyright and can (and have) use it for books etc.

Newspapers don't need to pay or ask permission to quote threads in order to comment on them, it'll come under fair use. They aren't "selling threads to the Daily Mail".

If MN are making a profit out of selling posters threads then yes that definitely should be said. That’s incredibly shameful of MN if true

Why do people think the posts are being sold?

No idea Rottnest.

They're doing it to signal they're not a journalist, or whatever wanky clickbait writers for that shit-rag are called these days.

Lucky those wanky clickbait writers for that shit-rag aren't cunning enough to post things like "The DM is shit" just to try to fool us, isn't it?

I've never understood this either. If anything, it might attract their attention.

And, yes: this is a public message board. Things could be picked up by anybody out there.

I also think the DM, its works and its journalists are vile, btw.

Mumsnet have previously confirmed that they receive 'a fee' for the posts that appear in the Daily Mail. Not surprisingly they don't shout it from the rooftops. It came up when there was the data breach and I asked about it in a thread where Mumsnet were answering questions on the data breach

Mumsnet say they don’t sell the threads and I believe them: partly because I’m trusting but mostly because there’s no reason for the DM to pay good money for content when it’s completely legal for them to scour the site and “report” any juicy items for free.

It’s just like when news sites bulk out a non-story with Twitter comments. Neither Twitter nor the commenter will have sold it to the news site, although larger news organisations may approach the commenter for more details if they think it would add value.

Mumsnet have previously confirmed that they receive 'a fee' for the posts that appear in the Daily Mail.

I thought they'd done the opposite.