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Neighbour parked on my drive

306 replies

maltesersplease · 20/06/2019 15:50

In February, neighbour/friend gets clamped and fined for no tax, MOT, insurance. Asks if she can park on my drive a few days until she can afford to sort it all out.

We fell out over something else a few weeks ago over something much more serious, and don't speak anymore. Don't need to drip feed, this part's irrelevant.

The car is still on my drive. I've asked her to move it, she says she will SORN it. Car doesn't start either so I can't just move it myself. If she SORNs it, she will never move it! It's still not taxed or MOTd.

So now I seem to be stuck with it on my drive. Each of the police, DVLA and council have told me it's one of the other responsibilities.

I'm feeling really irritated by life in general and if I wasn't worried it would harm a person, I'd have taken the handbrake off it by now!

(This isn't AIBU to remove the handbrake, it's more of a "I'm really fed up can anyone help please?).

OP posts:
Try2makeadifference · 22/06/2019 11:12

@Jack80
It’s best if you rtft!
Hmm

forumdonkey · 22/06/2019 11:56

I'd be away from home, on a night out and tagging myself on FB surrounded by friends at the time the car was 'towed away' 😉. If asked, I'd say that I'd phoned the finance company so assumed that they'd took it.

Ferret27 · 22/06/2019 12:14

Pay for it to get picked up and taken to a pound ..notify her and the finance company giving them the date this will happen ... one of them will act as they will want the vehicle or the money for it ... give her 2weeks notice ... act like any other landowner with an obstruction on their land ....
Ps if you do end up paying for its removal ... then go to a small claims court to make her pay you back..
Paper trail and reasonable notice given and you won’t be out of pocket .. good luck

jwpetal · 22/06/2019 13:24

have it towed. say you don't know who it belongs to but that it is your property.

Tinkerbell89 · 22/06/2019 17:14

You have every right to have it towed. Either have a mate with a tie rope to move it on to the road or call recovery. You can legally do this. Stick a letter through their door advising them that's the action you'll be taking if it's not moved within a couple of days.

Nanny0gg · 22/06/2019 18:13

You can legally do this.

Evidence for that?

John470322 · 22/06/2019 18:47

You said it was not insured. I've had cars on finance and I am pretty sure that part of the agreement was that I must keep up the insurance. If you can find the finance company they might act as their car is at risk if it in not insured.
I am not sure how to find the name of the finance company but even googling the reg number might help.

StealthPolarBear · 22/06/2019 19:57

From what posters have said it wouldnt be illegal to get it towed onto her front lawn (ie her property) or even the finance company car park if they're local. As long as you don't damage it.
Op says she can't move it as it doesn't start so clealy can open the doors.

Tomkinz · 23/06/2019 13:10

Tinkerbell89

You can legally do this. Why say something as emphatically as that when she CAN'T legally do that? People have an opinion about things and then instantly turn that opinion into case law.

The law is clear - she is an "involuntary bailee" (google it) of the car. The only options which protect her are the two I've previously suggested OR, there is the recently suggested option of having the car carefully lifted - with no damage or marks - and placed on the front lawn of the keeper.

No matter which option she chooses there will be an initial cost if it goes to Court under S13 of the Torts Act www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/32/section/13
or if she has to get the services of a car shifter.

SerendipityJane · 23/06/2019 14:03

she is an "involuntary bailee" (google it) of the car.

Mentioned more than once in this thread. Don't even need to google it as links were provided ....

Berrengaria · 23/06/2019 16:19

Total up from when you first asked your neighbour to remove her car (weeks) and then decide how much you'd like to charge for parking on what is your property. Make out an invoice and send it to her. I would think something like £5 per day would be reasonable. She's ot going to pay it but as long as you've sent it you can then send her another invoice requesting promp payment of same. Again I'm sure she won't pay it and may even ignore it. Send her a third invoice but this time give her so long to bring all rentals of your land up to date. Threaten her with court action if the invoice is either not paid nor the car removed within this time (I would give her 14 days from the date of your final demand letter). You may have to go to court but you do have every right to charge her for using your land. Make sure there are no by-laws against using your property for car parking purposes where you can make money from it. Good luck. She's way out of order.

Walkamileinmyshoesbeforeujudge · 23/06/2019 17:24

Op if you can give a rough area I can provide a burly dh and 4 x ds's who will have it moved tonight....

hellsbellsmelons · 24/06/2019 09:05

Flippin' 'eck.
The fucking cheek of some people.
I would honestly hire someone to move it back onto the road.
Then get penguin bollard on my drive so she can't put it back there.

lightsout · 24/06/2019 12:12

Have you managed to move it op?

Original poster
maltesersplease · 24/06/2019 22:58

Hi. No news yet. No response from anyone and it's Still. Just. Sitting. There.

OP posts:
IHateUncleJamie · 25/06/2019 10:05

No response from who? Did you send the neighbour a recorded signed for letter?

PepsiLola · 25/06/2019 10:48

I think now is the time for a Facebook post on a neighbourhood group requesting some strong rugby players to push the vehicle onto the road...

bringthethunder · 25/06/2019 11:15

I genuinely cannot for the life of me fathom why you are just being so civil about all of this. Your neighbour has been quite clear that she has no intentions of moving it. Why are you afraid of being rude or difficult when she so blatantly doesn't have the same concerns? Genuinely baffled

If you have access to the car then open the door if you don't then smash the window take the hand brake off, and roll it into the road. It really IS that simple. She'll be angry - who cares?! Block off your driveway with pots or just bodily lie there so she can't return the car to that spot. Or better yet the second it hits the public road, report it as untaxed and have it towed!

I'm sorry OP but people only get away with what you let them and there comes a point where this stops being the neighbours CF'ery and you being a pushover.... Be a grown up and get this resolved before it makes you ill.

PepsiLola · 25/06/2019 11:36

@bringthethunder I fully agree, there would be no way I would allow it to go this far.

CrumpetWithMarg · 25/06/2019 11:37

I think you should pop a note through her door saying you are selling the house and need to move the car, if she doesn't arrange to move it in the next 48 hours, put a sign on it and let her know it will be being sold for parts - invite people to come and purchase whatever bits they need from it, £1/part (we did this with an old car we owned).

Or burn it. Accidentally, on a hot day, so it could look spontaneous..!

DontCallMeShitley · 25/06/2019 12:14

Put a sign on it, offering it free for scrap.
Start taking bits off (at night, when no-one will see).

78percentLindt · 25/06/2019 12:21

I know you have spoken to the finance company, but I think that you should write to them explaining that you gave permission for her to leave the car on your drive for a few days, while she sorted out tax and insurance. it has now been there for several months and you want the use of your drive. You understand it is still not taxed and may not be insured, You have approached their client who is refusing to move it. As the car is their property you wish them to remove it by xxxxdate. From this date you will be charging £100 per day for the use of your drive, which they have agreed to by not moving it, and you will make arrangements to have it moved to a pound at their risk and their responsibility for any damage caused. You will be seeking reimbursement from them for this.
send it recorded and copy it to her.
The carry out the threat. Regular bills to them, with interest charged for not paying etc.

SerendipityJane · 25/06/2019 12:30

From this date you will be charging £100 per day for the use of your drive, which they have agreed to by not moving it, and you will make arrangements to have it moved to a pound at their risk and their responsibility for any damage caused.

also make sure you insert a sentence explicitly removing any permission for them to enter your property under any circumstances at any time. If they want their car back they can pay for it, or get a court order to retrieve it.

Maybe move this thread to legal for help with wording ?

JollyHolly30 · 26/06/2019 01:59

I also vote that you get it moved at night and deny culpability if anyone questions you. Claim that you demanded it be moved and woke up to find that it had been. They'd have no proof that you did it yourself.
Stop letting her use and treat you as such a weakling!

HappyLoneParentDay · 26/06/2019 02:40

Any update op? @maltesersplease

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