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To want to limit my own conversations w/MIL?

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1ToughCookie · 19/06/2019 09:15

I found out (via an argument with husband that was started by this very issue) that MIL tells me one thing ("I'm happy to be in a hotel") and him another ("if only 1ToughCookie world let us stay with you in your home with the newborn then we could see you for two weeks, but I want the invite to be all warm and enthusiastic from 1ToughCookie").

I don't want houseguests. I'm not physically capable of having houseguests. It goes against my health and treatment plan. When I'm feeling wholly well, my generosity maxes out at 3 days/2 nights. But I'm not feeling well anymore. I've become chronically ill with migraines and severe cluster headaches (perimenstrual and chronic respectively; as a neurology patient I'm a miracle case but it's required a ton of sacrifices to get my conditions under control) and what appears to be ME, as so far nothing else is responsible. Houseguests would stress me into a relapse of one or all conditions. I know this because I find that stress causes relapse, and also I find playing host to cause stress. And I have a particular clash with MIL who disregards my wishes whenever it doesn't suit her own and then goes all tearful and hurt when I stand by my needs. And her family has just gotten used to letting mother have her way, because it's too much hassle otherwise.

So, anyways. She wants to be my mother and adopt me (not legally) like the daughter she never had. Which has made me just sightly uncomfortable in the past, but not enough to think too much on it. After having had a few serious disagreements with her (such as the hosting issue) that I thought were resolved, I'm now considering just not really talking to her. I don't mean in a rude way. If she calls (as she does) instead of letting her talk for two hours, I'm thinking of just a quick hello/I've got to run/glad to hear from you/ok hope all is well with that thing you just told me/Goodbye. That's approximately a ten minute conversation with her because she loves to talk. I'm just not feeling like trying to maintain any sort of relationship besides being polite and cordial now.

I don't feel that she listens to me. I feel like she builds up these beautiful visions and expects them to be fulfilled and she will push hard to fulfill them, even if that means trampling on me in the process. This isn't what I look for in a support system.

Am I being unreasonable to want to cut contact down to what's necessary and polite?

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TulipsTwoLips · 19/06/2019 09:28

Not unreasonable at all. Your health comes first. Is there a kind way that you could explain this to her?

TougheningUp · 19/06/2019 09:32

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. She's playing you off against your husband, she overrides your boundaries, and she's emotionally manipulative. I think it might actually be useful to limit your communications with her as then there'll be less for her to use against you.

If your husband is unhappy with this, then tell him that you'll happily reinstate communications once she can be trusted to behave reasonably. He'll know she can't.

Readyforapummelling · 19/06/2019 09:34

I think maybe sit down with the woman and have a conversation about it all. If she wants to "adopt" you as a daughter then she should be willing to listen. Explain why you don't want houseguests when your newborn arrives and there isn't room for negotiation.

You might welcome her support once the baby arrives as the second pair of hands might be what you need, because in terms of stress a newborn entering the household is up there with the best. That doesn't mean she has to live under your roof for two weeks though, set the boundaries. Hell, I wouldn't have my own mother staying for 2 weeks but I was glad of her popping in often.

If you can resolve the matter without muddying the water it would be better for you in the long run. Family feuds and bad feelings take up a lot of energy, especially with a child in the mix. It's hard work being pissed off with someone, my own personal mantra is "choose your battles". That doesn't mean let MIL walk all over you, but try the discussion option before cutting contact.

My own DM is the same, I'm a 29 year old mother and she sometimes treats me like I'm 15, so I have to tell her to reign it in a bit.

Good luck OP Thanks

Scorpvenus1 · 19/06/2019 09:40

I can sympathise being a INFj and i cant have houseguests as it sets off all sorts of mental issues so i limit it also. For years I would feel bad that others felt bad but its how it is. 2 weeks is a long time and even reading it about your situation made me feel uneasy. And she comes off as intrusive and not respecting your boundaries and pushing against them with DH. When people come unannounced its a bit tough and ill be honest I don't answer the door if I'm not mentally prepared.

She sounds selfish and a bit thick emotionally. So you are not being unreasonable. Your health is more important then playing house guest roulette with pests. The crocodile tears mean nothing, what about your needs????

Cut the communication till she learns some manners :D Airplane mode the phone to reply to whats app without being seen and keep it on so if she calls go to voicemail.

Meccacos · 19/06/2019 09:42

Your health comes first.

She’s manipulative and wants to stay at your house for two weeks and is going behind your back to do so.

Don’t talk to her for two hours. You’re unwell.

I get migraines too, stress can trigger attacks. I wouldn’t allow someone like that in my house either.

Do what you need to do.

1ToughCookie · 19/06/2019 12:14

Thanks everyone for the input!
Hope you don't mind a bit of a vent to get this off my chest because some of these things I don't want to recirculate. And I don't want to bottle it up and spew it all at DH one night when I'm stressed and cranky.

Meccacos, you understand then what migraines are like and how they impact livelihood. The best treatment for them is prevention, as I'm sure you agree. A cluster headache is like a full migraine, if it could be condensed down to 1 hour and concentrated behind one eye ball. It's also called Suicide Headache, and there were times when I was tempted, and many more times I had to talk myself out of popping out my eyeball because when there's that much pain, you start having some pretty crazy thoughts. And hitting your own head, rocking and swaying are clinical symptoms which I definitely exhibited before I met my neurologist.

So I am anxious about not wanting any of those things to be triggered off with stress.

And Scorpvenus1, I'm an INFj, too! And I feel the same way about social interaction. It just sucks the life out of me and always has. There's only a few people who I don't feel that way with.

MIL knows so much about my health! And she has opposite ideas on how to deal with it--I'm at the acceptance, "let's make life work anyway
" phase and she's constantly like " you have to fight this! Look Facebook says colloidal silver is a magic cure all that the evil doctors have suppressed since Victorian times to make money on pharma" and I've given up saying things like, "actually that's poisonous." I just decided I had enough to trying to be nice and explain things to her, and I just want her out of my vagina. Because she's tried hard to go there too. Not physically, but I'm just saying I've had many less invasive pelvic exams.
Not kidding you, she knows a lot. I've scolded my husband for going into details about blood test results and what they mean and who we're seeing next. I finally told him that if he keeps passing along every detail, I'm going to stop telling him and letting him come along to doctor visits. I've told him it's ok to tell her how he's impacted, how he's feeling about things, and about the things that are obvious enough for neighbours and friends to notice, but not to relate things that can only be found in my medical record.

But MIL still asks anyway, even after I corrected DH while he was telling her my recent test results over the phone, so she knows I have boundaries and she wants there to be none at all.

Due to my parents living very rural and his parents living extremely rural, it's not like our parents can pop by for short periods. A week's visit makes the most sense. We can't live near either set of family because the jobs there don't pay enough to cover living expenses plus my medical needs and we'd have to travel a long way to reach medical attention anyway--and that is assuming that I'd be working full-time as well, which isn't a possibility at the moment. I'm a part time student and that's all I can handle for now, as far as leaving the house goes. I'm pretty proud of myself for managing to put my life back together as much as I have.

I've already had a conversation with her about why I don't want houseguests, citing health concerns. It resulted in a huge blow-up that lasted 3 days, and included somehow her getting very upset that I didn't want to be friends with her anymore. (?? Not at all what I said??) (Though honestly after that debacle...) After this she was telling me about how she'd accepted things and didn't want to make me uncomfortable and actually wanted to stay in hotels and go out and see some of the local sights.

About her insistence that I be her daughter, I've always just skirted the topic. I never quite felt like telling her that I've already got a mother and don't want another one. (And if I did I wouldn't pick her) even just stating the obvious, No you aren't my mother, seems asking for a big tiff. Is it worth it, or it is better just to ignore the occasional comment? I've not decided.

I'm perfectly, wholly ok with visits during daylight hours. Yes, it'll be tiring to have company all day for goodness knows how long, but I mean... I just want the dark hours to recoup and recover. I don't see how that's possible if I'm going to be confined to my bedroom every time I want to get away from people, especially since actually laying down puts pressure on my occipital nerve and triggers migraine. And our bedroom is just big enough for bed and wardrobe. It's not a relaxing atmosphere, just an isolating one.

The thing about people helping is that it'll only work if it's help not "help". Someone who refuses to listen to me and my needs isn't going to help me, they'll hurt me instead. Very possibly literally, if they do something like "tidy" up my oxygen supplies somewhere where I don't know where they've gone or where they aren't quickly accessible, ditto with my meds. Unfortunately my MIL is exactly the kind to do so, because she cleaned and look how pretty it is now. And was that thing important? Why was it sitting out then? (Maybe because it is important and often in use?) Well it's out with the bin men now, teehehe.

Yes I've seen her grin and giggle about throwing away things that are not easy to replace. I don't want her unsupervised in my house unless she agrees to leave it alone--which I honestly won't believe until she's proven through trial that she's capable of it.

I'd say she's free to have at the floors. Those are the real problems for me. But she doesn't like doing floors and won't and hasn't done them in the past.

She also hates our clothes washing machine. She thinks it takes too long and doesn't do this or that and why is it so tiny and she'd rather see us with these units like she has at her house instead. She doesn't understand how our machine works and would sooner throw a fit about it ruining clothes than ask about settings.

In our last house she spent the mornings in the spare room overlooking the neighbour's garden with her coffee (I asked her not to have any staining drinks on the carpeted areas because we rent. Consistently ignored. Or she claims, forgotten) muttering to herself about how nice our neighbour's garden was and wouldn't it be lovely if she could have a garden like that to enjoy her coffee in.

We RENTED. Our landlords were jerks who refused improvements. Us tidying up the hedge and getting rid of brambles was a massive feat in itself. I just felt the whole thing was very rude for her to bring up every time how lovely our neighbour's garden was every time she saw our garden or sat in our garden or had reference to our garden.

In the house we're in now, this isn't the case. We got discounted rate for doing up the garden. Its looking very nice. Because I've put a lot of effort into it as part of my recovery therapy. And she knows it looks nice. I'm just ...
Ugghhhhhhn. I feel like venting about it without risk of it getting back to her ears, that's all.

I'm planning on hiring a maid soon as I feel like I can't swifter "mop" things anymore. So the floors, kitchen and bathroom will be cleaned once a week. I've put a lot of effort into organising the house so it's easy for a maid to come in and do the work and leave without having to spend a long time here.

So if MIL wants to spend time taking care baby, fine--but do they really have to just sit about the house all day 24/7 to do that? What will they do if I get a migraine and I want the volume level turned down? Having baby noises will be enough to deal with, let alone having someone refuse to lower their voice or talk softer or talk less. Babies also won't stink up the house with chicken soup and hot water bottles and demands that I lay down. (She's told me over a over that she wishes she could do this for me and I've told her over and over that I wouldn't want that. Laying down actually makes my head hurt worse and cooking smells make me vomit, and any sort of fussing just adds to the migraine as well. And it's cold, not heat, that makes me feel better. But so far I've not been listened to.)

I sort of wonder if she actually kind of wants me to get ill so she can feel needed. She's lonely and much of her family has died because she was a late in life child without very many cousins.

I basically just don't want to really talk to her anymore. I know I'll have to deal with her for forever since there's a child involved, but I'm wondering how I personally can have the bare minimum to do with her.

I'm considering spending all day at university for as many days as I can to stay away from the in laws. I can do some volunteer work at the lab. Or go work at the library. But I don't want to exhaust myself into a relapse by doing too much in too short of a time frame.

And for what it's worth, the no houseguests thing I've applied evenly across everyone so I'm not singling people out. I still find my parents stressful particularly after two or three days. And I think they stop enjoying visits the longer they go on too.

Anyway I know much of this is in rant territory. It makes me feel better to let it out.

OP posts:
1ToughCookie · 19/06/2019 12:34

I think I forgot previously--- I'm a miracle headache patient because I went from having a ton of headache days (20-24 a month), to only 1-3 a month.

So when I'm not stressed out and when I'm on my meds and medical diet (which I don't trust MIL to help out with) and following the things that work, I'm basically a functional human being. Who gets tired a lot. And can manage leaving the house 4 days a week and taking it easier on the other 3 days.

So me being able to follow what works (as compared to otherwise) is a HUGE difference. If there wasn't a huge difference, we'd never have had kids and just would have left us as a twosome.

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Scorpvenus1 · 19/06/2019 13:29

And Scorpvenus1, I'm an INFj, too! And I feel the same way about social interaction. It just sucks the life out of me and always has. There's only a few people who I don't feel that way with.

Haha see that's all it is, we DONT deal with people well, they drain us and she is the sort to likely to drain you within a very short period of time :D I hope all gets better and she backs off. If you ever need another INFJ friend to vent about people too, then message me if that's allowed. We have a select few people were comfy with and your not with her, and I can guess why ;) hehe.

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