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To expect my 16 yr old to get full time work for the summer?

465 replies

whatthewhatthewhat · 19/06/2019 00:07

At least 8 weeks until they go back to school for A-Levels. I worked full time at that age. AIBU to think they should get a job for the summer?

OP posts:
Iamnotagoddess · 20/06/2019 20:37

Yes a PT job Grin

Comefromaway · 20/06/2019 20:49

Sorry but most jobs only give you 4 hour shifts as too tight to pay breaks so surely 4 hours on a Saturday or Sunday will fit around studying

Where on earth did you get that info from? The type of jobs that employ 16 year olds (retail, waiting on etc) want much longer than 4 hour shifts. And I’m sure there are some altruistic places that give paid breaks but most minimum wage jobs breaks are unpaid.

Adultchild · 20/06/2019 22:05

YANBU
I started applying for part time jobs when I turned 16 (Sept so i was oldest in school year). When it came to the holidays i worked more shifts. It gave me money to buy the ridiculously tiny clothes and enormous shoes i apparently "needed" at the time Grin
Places like MacDonalds will need extra staff in the summer and that will allow your DC to build up a sense of responsibility and earn some money. A break for you I'm sure!
When did all this "kidult" stuff start? With apparently many graduates having no paid work experience, whatever your DC does will benefit them in the future.

DishingOutDone · 20/06/2019 22:59

So. Guys. Has no one noticed we've lost the OP? Nearly 24 hours since they posted? Does the phrase "wind 'em up and let 'em go" ring any bells? Daily Mail, anyone?

HelenaDove · 20/06/2019 23:05

"He'll likely be working for nearly 60 years the way things are going"

Yes im surprised more posters arent pointing this out The way it gets pointed out on the threads about baby boomers.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/06/2019 23:05

Absolutely the work experience will bode well for getting into a different school for sixth form & uni.
Confused whatever the benefits of work experience, I've never heard of it being in any way a factor in getting into a different school or uni. Maybe you meant it might help some who need to gain a bit of maturity or common sense with money to settle into those new environments?

justasking111 · 20/06/2019 23:05

Be prepared to do a lot of ferrying around. One DS worked in a hotel I was running him in at 6am, saw some lovely sunrises that summer. Other DS works in a restaurant so am picking him up late evening. Bit of a bind sometimes at weekends, you cannot have a drink on a Saturday night, have to leave friends houses early etc. I will be glad when he passes his driving test this summer fingers crossed.

Ineedaweeinpeace · 20/06/2019 23:06

I’m
With you op. I worked so hard to buy my own stuff. From Tammy girl Grin

DishingOutDone · 20/06/2019 23:16

Apparently the OP does have a posting history so I take back the Daily Fail (for now) but the rest stands. I like the way some posters are talking to the OP as if they think he or she would care one way or another, either what they think or what happens to a 16 year old Hmm

Blueink · 20/06/2019 23:20

YANBU. I worked full time in the school holiday and they kept me on 11 hours split between Sat & Sun every weekend after that (full time education Mon-Fri). It was great experience and it gave me independence, as well as stood me in good stead as an adult.

Anoni · 20/06/2019 23:24

Good luckis all i say, if they wanted a supermarket job they generally go early on in the year rather then jn summer. Right now he's competing with a levels students, students about to go to uni, and returning uni students for the seasonal hours.

In my place of work, 200 hours of overtime was posted for next week on departments, every hour has been taken by teens already in the company.

Treesthemovie · 20/06/2019 23:29

So the people that think a 16 yo still at school should be working full time during summer? Fgs, someone who is 16 now will be working, possibly in a bullshit job, until they are 80+ as retirement ages keep going up. Give people a fucking break

TheLittleDogLaughed · 21/06/2019 01:09

Does anybody know how a 16-year-old can get a job? My dd is desperate to work before college in September and we can’t find anything. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask for advice.

MAXnot73 · 21/06/2019 01:15

@TheLittleDogLaughed

RTFT

there could not be more information re finding jobs on this thread.

TheLittleDogLaughed · 21/06/2019 01:24

Ah great, I will thanks.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 21/06/2019 05:39

It's not that easy to get full time work as a16 year old. Shops & other workplaces etc can reduce their national insurance costs by having lots of part time staff instead of fewer full time, so many will not give out as many hours. A temp job in an office for only 8 weeks, for a inexperienced 16 year old will be rare - everyone knows young people are required to be in education or training til 18 now so will know the teenager isn't sticking around long term. GCSE students also usually finish after uni & a level students so the summer jobs have already been creamed off.

That said absolutely they should be working and not just an odd Saturday here and there. I worked probably 25 hours a week the summer I was 16 (a mix of call centre shifts and shop shifts) and was expected to pay for my own holiday,clothes & day to day spending which seems to be rare these days.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 21/06/2019 05:51

All the people who don't expect 16 year old to work at all.... don't your teens want money for things with their friends? Holidays, activities, festivals, phones etc? Surely you aren't just handing out wodges of cash whenever they want it? That's how we end up with so many entitled kids who don't value money Confused

I grew up in a middle class area and was a teenager early noughties and everyone had a job. Lots had Saturday jobs from 14 - I worked in a shop at 15. People wanted money for holidays, clothes, cars or driving lessons etc & it taught us to save!

ComeAndDance · 21/06/2019 06:27

NoIDont actually NO.
I have two teens at about that age. They get £30 a month pocket money plus some for their birthday etc... and they don’t constantly want things. Not clothes, not festival etc... They might go to the cinema a couple of times a year with friends. All in all, they can still manage to save enough money to change their phone when they want to (because I’m NOT going to buy a phone at £400+).

They dint get masses of things bought for them - basically just what is needed. But they dint feel the need to have more either (as shown when you ask them for a list of things they might want for the b’day and they struggle to come up with 4 or 5 things).
They are busy with their hobby, which takes a lot of time, allows them to see people etc... and have a pretty busy lifestyle already.

lovelyupnorth · 21/06/2019 06:34

Come and live here my DDs have worked from 13. And most of their friends have also worked we live near a large village and I think every 14, 15, 16 y/o that wants a job can get one. Full time might be a challenge. But my DD now 18 has worked in the same cafe for 5 years is in £8 an hour and can pretty much choose which days she works.

Currently looking on the local sell and seek site about 10 jobs suitable for a 16 year old include cafes, hotels, retail and small supermarkets all looking for staff.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 21/06/2019 06:55

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I grew up in a middle class area and was a teenager early noughties and everyone had a job. Lots had Saturday jobs from 14 - I worked in a shop at 15. People wanted money for holidays, clothes, cars or driving lessons etc & it taught us to save!

That's nice.. I grew up in a deprived working class town where experienced adults find it difficult to find work, never mind sixteen year olds fresh out of school... but none of them are expecting "wedges of cash" to be handed over to them, because the cash doesn't exist.

MAXnot73 · 21/06/2019 07:48

All the people who don't expect 16 year old to work at all.... don't your teens want money for things with their friends? Holidays, activities, festivals, phones etc? Surely you aren't just handing out wodges of cash whenever they want it? That's how we end up with so many entitled kids who don't value money

I gave mine money. I felt as a parent it was my responsibility to do this. I'm not mean. DD had 2 great summers post 16 and then she got a job when she left school at 18. She is at Uni now, still in the same part time job as it was a transferable job, and there is absolutely nothing remotely entitled about her.

The idea that if you don't work, cook own means and do your own washing from about age 11 you won't survive in life baffles me. Really common but batshit Mumsnet view of teenagers.

I often wondered when the beautiful bundle of joy you get handed in the hospital becomes something parents seem to resent.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 21/06/2019 08:14

Quite agree MAX.

Sakura7 · 21/06/2019 08:20

I grew up in a middle class area and was a teenager early noughties and everyone had a job. Lots had Saturday jobs from 14.

How many times does it need to be said on this thread? Times have changed! Partly due to economic factors, partly due to regulation, H&S, etc. I dontbthink anyone is saying they're against a 16 year old doing some part time worked, but it shouldn't be forced, and it needs to be recognised that they can't just walk into a Saturday job like we could 15-20 years ago.

Fairylea · 21/06/2019 08:22

I agree @MAXnot73

Mumsnet seems to think if your child isn’t doing their own washing by 8 they’ll grow up jobless and living at home till they’re 50...

Sakura7 · 21/06/2019 08:23

don't think even. Why doesn't MN have an edit function?

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