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To expect my 16 yr old to get full time work for the summer?

465 replies

whatthewhatthewhat · 19/06/2019 00:07

At least 8 weeks until they go back to school for A-Levels. I worked full time at that age. AIBU to think they should get a job for the summer?

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Lazypuppy · 19/06/2019 18:01

YANBU. Doesn't need to be full time but work in a clothe shops for 20-30hrs a week would provide enough income and leave them some days to see friends.

I used to work 16hrs a week from 16yo and always extra every school holidays

ineedtogotobedanyway · 19/06/2019 18:13

YANBU. Doesn't need to be full time but work in a clothe shops for 20-30hrs a week would provide enough income and leave them some days to see friends.

Adults with years of retail experience are struggling to get anything more than zero hours contracts in this day and age. Where do you think 16 year olds are pulling 20-30 hours from?

The level of ignorance re finding work in this thread is staggering.

Lazypuppy · 19/06/2019 18:24

@ineedtogotobedanyway the city centre shopping centre near me actually. Nearly every single shop is advertising for staff. And this only increases in readiness for summer hols.Retail don't often recruit ft, normally pt shift work.

Oh and i used to be a retail manager and 16-18yo made up the majority of my staff.

No ignorance over here, there are plenty of jobs, people just need need to be flexible and not fussy, which a 16yo should be

ineedtogotobedanyway · 19/06/2019 18:28

You must live in the only thriving city centre. in the UK.

Nearly every single shop advertising for staff?? I'm sorry; that's not even close to being believable.

CarolDanvers · 19/06/2019 18:31

No ignorance over here, there are plenty of jobs,

I live in London and cover a great deal of ground in my daily routine. I see the occasional card in a window, usually a cafe or restaurant. Where is this bustling hub of employment opportunity that you live in out of interest?

Dungeondragon15 · 19/06/2019 18:33

No ignorance over here, there are plenty of jobs, people just need need to be flexible and not fussy, which a 16yo should be

There might be plenty of jobs where you live but that doesn't apply to everywhere! I have seen very few retail jobs in my area which is hardly surprising considering so many shops are in financial difficulty. Those jobs that do exist have a lot of competition and they would also advertise on line rather than in the shop so seems really odd that you have seen so many advertising.

Deadringer · 19/06/2019 18:36

I delivered papers at about 12, babysat from 13 and had summer jobs from age 14 but times have changed. My area is awash with 3rd level students all vying for seasonal and part time jobs, a 16 year wouldn't get a look in.

NannyKasey · 19/06/2019 18:36

I was a Saturday Girl in Littlewoods when I was in 6th Form, (early 1980's). It was great, I could afford to buy stuff that I wanted (mainly records and clothes). I wouldn't have wanted to work full time in the school holidays and DPs wouldn't have expected me to. I didn't expect my DCs to work in their holidays. YABU

Sakura7 · 19/06/2019 18:37

Even if there are ads in every shop window, they will presumably attract a number of applicants, of which the inexperienced 16 year old will be bottom of the pile.

It's not impossible but it's not as easy as it was even 10-15 years ago.

Xmr1986 · 19/06/2019 18:38

Yeah a 16yr old isnt getting a full time job for just two months when half of us can't even get our hands on a part time one we'd be commited to for life. What job exactly do you expect them to get? Hmm

ImperialPleather · 19/06/2019 18:38

YABU.

Sakura7 · 19/06/2019 18:39

Funny how the OP hasn't bothered coming back...

Dontsweatthelittlestuff · 19/06/2019 18:49

I too want to know where this high street is with ads in the windows looking for summer workers.
Our high street is on its last legs. Pretty much every independent shop has gone and several of the large retailers.
I work in retail and there is no summer jobs offered by the company I work for. There will be Xmas temps but not suitable for a 16 year old as the shifts will be lates or nights so a minimum age of 18.
Plus I don’t know if any retail chain that advertise for staff via the shop window. All applications are online now and we don’t even accept cvs handed in store.
We don’t employ Saturday staff as everyone is on 24/7 contracts so weekends are just part of the working week and the only store I know locally who still offer weekend contracts is marks and Spencers and you rarely see vacancies advertised as they tend to retain their student staff until they leave for uni.

Lazypuppy · 19/06/2019 18:57

@Dontsweatthelittlestuff

I too want to know where this high street is with ads in the windows looking for summer workers.

Who said anything about shop windows? Our city shopping centre advertises all retailers vacancies online, as does our our of town shopping centre.

People are defeatest before they have even started.

Also a 16yo wom't just have the job for summer, surely they will carry on on weelnd hours once school starts again

JaneGlorianaVillanueva · 19/06/2019 18:59

I think they should have to get a job but it only needs to be part time in my opinion.

Dungeondragon15 · 19/06/2019 19:02

Who said anything about shop windows? Our city shopping centre advertises all retailers vacancies online, as does our our of town shopping centre.

I think people assumed that you must see it in shop windows as you didn't suggest that you were actively looking for shop work which you would need to be doing to see it online.
I have looked online and absolutely no jobs in retail near me. Shops are cutting costs and closing rather than recruiting.

Sakura7 · 19/06/2019 19:29

Just looked for my local shopping centre and there are 2 jobs that would be suitable, but both say experience preferable. The others are for managers and supervisors. This is a centre with nearly 100 shops, a cinema and lots of restaurants.

IncyWincyGrownUp · 19/06/2019 19:45

My eldest has just finished her exams too. She’ll spend the next two months recovering from the last two years. It isn’t nearly enough time, but there we go. I’ll pay her to babysit every now and again, and she’s looking forward to a little bit of calm.

If your child wants to find a job, fair enough, but if they just want the downtime and don’t expect to be bankrolled then leave them to chill.

Clevererthanyou · 19/06/2019 19:58

It's a great idea op. Really character building, it teaches resilience and appreciation of the value of money. I had to start a full time job in a chippy when I was 15 (Thanks Ma') and I learned to take verbal abuse from customers, boss and fellow workers alike. I learned that if a boss thinks they can get away with it they WILL underpay you and make sexual advances. That's the only kind of job a kid will get within 8 weeks if you want them working 'full time'. This should be one of the greatest summers of their life, have a heart.

pikapikachu · 19/06/2019 20:00

Just has a look at my local shopping centre website and there's only a handful of jobs that require no experience. My 18yo has been in the same part-time retail job since he was 16. He found the ad on a job website rather than the actual shopping centre one.

He asked people in the year above where they worked and looked at those company's websites too. Where I live there are lots of retail parks as well as a big shopping centre.

Coffeeonthesofa · 19/06/2019 20:05

About 15 years ago I worked as a manager in a very large cafe type place. We did offer full time work over the summer to students but they were weekend staff who worked with us all year round. Even then we insisted that they have two weeks off even if they were not going away, just to relax. If we were short of numbers we might have considered one of the many university students, with some work experience, who approached us for summer work and not a random 16 year old who had never worked before.
Even for waitressing/ dish washing work we had Training a health and safety briefing and would pair new starts with “old hands” for their first few shifts, not worth it for a few weeks for someone in their first job who might not be reliable. Especially if they only applied because their mum told them to.

Coffeeonthesofa · 19/06/2019 20:08

Forgot to say the place I worked in doesn’t exist any more. Replaced with a place which seems to employ a tiny fraction of the staff we used to and all the ones I have seen are grown women.

Fairenuff · 19/06/2019 20:11

My dd heard through friends parents about a waitressing job going. She went up there with a cv and got taken on. She was 15.

Ds went to the local golf club to ask if they needed any caddies. They didn't but offered him work in the kitchen. He was 14.

Someone I worked with had a second job waitressing at wedding events and said staff turnover was high. Dd and ds both asked for and got offered work there.

Through the weddings, ds got chatting to an events co-ordinator who organised a pop-up restaurant throughout the summer. They wanted kitchen staff and ds was offered as many or as few shifts as he wanted during August.

Dd then went on to work in a supermarket and they have her back everytime she's home from university.

My friend's ds left his job in a warehouse so ds went to the agency to see if there was a vacancy. He got that job paying £10 an hour.

When he went to university he got part time work in retail.

There are jobs out there, you just need to talk to everyone and ask about. Ask people where they work and if their company is hiring.

Nofunkingworriesmate · 19/06/2019 20:12

Maybe compromise and combine work and “holiday “with volunteering abroad camp America type thing if that suits

LewisFan · 19/06/2019 20:13

DS is doing NCS before looking for a pet job to boost his CV for college

I wouldn't expect him to work full time at 16 ... 8 weeks isn't that long and they need a bit of a break after the pressure they've been under IMO

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