To hate lip fillers or is it only the bad ones that show?

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Are there loads of secret lip fillers about that I'm not aware of because they look natural?

I'm seeing lots and lots of lip fillers around at the moment!

i think you can almost always tell when someone has lip fillers, if not immediately, then after watching someone talk for a bit

It’s the way the extra volume fills out past the natural lip line, even with small amounts

Kylie Jenner looks ridiculous. Proper blow up doll. Can't blame her for having such a warped idea of what is normal I guess.

@mabelsgarden I’ve tried to crop my face out

I hated them before and don’t now that’s all I really care about. There are tell tale signs to lip fillers that I can spot a mile off. I don’t mind if people know I’ve had fillers though.

@MusicTwilight
"I must be living on another planet as I think its the strangest thing to stick chemicals into your (otherwise normal) lips. Nurses (mentioned) don't earn millions and aren't Hollywood actors or models. So who or what are they doing it for? It makes no sense to me. (But even if I were a millionairess I wouldn't have it done)."

...I mentioned nurses, but as in they are the ones offering lip fillers to others, rather than having it done themselves.

1ml of lip filler costs between £30 - £90 for an aesthetics practitioner to buy (depending on the brand), and for application of that 1ml most charge people between £190 - 220ish from what I've seen. Obviously they have other costs, like insurance etc, but that's still at least £100ish profit for each client. Which is why it's such an attractive side line for nurses who "don't earn millions"...

I think we'll look back on this trend for fillers, botox etc and cringe tbh. The same way we look at corsets or whatever now. Damaging, unnatural, sexist nonsense.

I've been tempted several times (I live in a place which is very big on cosmetic enhancement) but I don't want my daughter growing up thinking that it's something so necessary even her boring old mum does it. Let the wrinkles take over. I'm happy as I am.

I think most of them look absolutely ridiculous, why does everyone want to look like trashy porn stars?

My cousin had them done, very pretty lady beforehand, now looks awful and disfigured. Such a shame.

So many different products on the market for filming nowadays to create different effects. So manydiffetent looks posdible yo achieve.
Its thefake look that shows.
Someone I know had disproportionate lips, one day one thin. Had them subtly matched. You'd never know. DS's GF had hers slightly increased, although didn't need it really, again you wouldn't know, you' d just think she has full lips, they're in proportion to her face.
Thinking natural facial promotion and harmony is respected you can't and shouldn't be able to tell.
There are products designed to create to pladtic effect, there are also a lot of people with minimal qualification administering them which makes them look even worse. I personally believecdome peoplewuickly become dysmorphic so they no longer know what normal looks like or how bizarrevthey look So just keep going back for more. Its feeding an addiction or a severe insecurity in a lot of cases.
I reckon it must hurt too.

Really natural and nice looking :)

@IAmAlwaysLikeThis, totally take your point but where are you going to draw the line? No eyebrows? No make up?

I’m considering it. I’m 55 and my lips are thinner than they used to be and lipstick runs. I think I read that fillers will help lipstick look better.

I have had Botox and fillers before. Wouldn’t have Botox again but would fillers. The guy I go to has a poster on the wall opposite the chair you sit in saying “Less is More”. He says he does turn people away - often for lip fillers. Sometimes they want more than will look good and he doesn’t want his reputation affected. He also won’t do lip fillers on clients who have had fillers with him then had more elsewhere and come back to him after the supposed 6 months or whatever and he knows that they have already had more elsewhere.

"totally take your point but where are you going to draw the line? No eyebrows? No make up?"

The line for me is injecting shit that hurts into my body. Or doing anything that hurts in general.

Something that is not easily undoable (eg permanently removing my pubes or botox.)

I'd be happier if make up wasn't considered a necessity but I've been wearing it less and less.

Of course everyone's line is different. But spending more than a few minutes a day on my appearance when I could be doing something useful just strikes me as shite. Most of the young women I know spend hours on their make up, hair etc yet are mired in self loathing. I think the more time you spend on that crap, the more you hate yourself as there are always imperfections.

I hate all this stuff and think it's such a shame that women, and it is mostly women, can't just accept their face as it is.
Women wear shoes they can barely walk in and that hurt their feet, clothes that don't keep them warm and dry, nails that stop from being able to use their hands properly, they spend hours plastering their faces with makeup and now inject shit into it. It all just backs up the idea that a woman's role is mostly decorative and I won't take part in it.

I’m not judging people even tho some look so ridiculous but I lived with someone who was a fan of surgery and fillers and I can honestly say, it doesn’t age well AT ALL.
You have to know when to stop and when to control it. The more you do the more you’d pump up to counteract the passing of time/skin stretching and you’d end up a caricature of yourself. It ended up being terrifying.
Same with that waxy look of Botox after a while. Nobody looks younger, they only look plastic.
I’m a fan of both surgery and cosmetics like fillers to slightly improve. I’ve had a nosejob myself and I love the “after” lips shown above by Maneandfeathers but I have to admit the kartrashian will age terribly terribly bad with that stretched skin in her lips.

I do think it is like whalebone corsets or white lead paint on the face. Damaging to the body and objectively ridiculous, but seen through the prism of the current societal norms, necessary to comply with a narrow definition of feminine attractiveness. It shows how little has changed really.

I think the obvious 'done' look sends a clear message that a woman is content to comply with the current bandwidth of gender norms for femininity, so it is not about looking attractive so much as looking acceptable to someone who thinks women should behave and act in a socially approved 'feminine' way.

A girl in work has them. He lips are huge, that's the look she is going for.
Day after she has them topped up she is in the staff Room dribbling her food as her lips are numb for a bit afterwards she says.
She is such a beautiful young lady I think it's such a shame she has such an extreme look, but that's her choice.

I agree that the obvious fillers etc look weird to us, but I guess to the women who get them done it’s all part of a look that is supposed to be obvious (overly large boob implants, strong tan, long hair extensions, massive false lashes etc). It’s almost a badge of honour to show that you’ve had work done. They’re not supposed to look natural.

@Maneandfeathers yours look great. Totally natural looking and love the lipstick shade!

I've had them only a small amount, no one in my life noticed they look very natural my lips were uneven and it balanced them out

I hate all this stuff and think it's such a shame that women, and it is mostly women, can't just accept their face as it is.
Women wear shoes they can barely walk in and that hurt their feet, clothes that don't keep them warm and dry, nails that stop from being able to use their hands properly, they spend hours plastering their faces with makeup and now inject shit into it. It all just backs up the idea that a woman's role is mostly decorative and I won't take part in it..

Absolutely @Oysterbabe - it feels like some sort of mad conspiracy theory to say so, but it does seem that women are being kept in their place (not necessarily by men, but by other women) when so much focus is kept on having to look a certain way, which is impractical for getting anything else done.

When you see girls swishing and pulling their long hair forwards, pouting, adjusting their tight fitting clothes and being aware not to touch their face in ways that might smudge their make up, it must be so distracting that they can’t possibly give their full attention to anything else, they’re always aware that they’re being looked at.

You see it on Love Island, even when they cry they just dab underneath their eyes and check their fingers for mascara, they can’t actually wipe their own tears properly!

Anyone see Madonna lately? Her face is like an egg, the only parts of it that move are her eyes and mouth. And she’s now taken to wearing gloves all the time because her hands look their age. We all know she’s 61 so what’s the point?

I know what you mean, some seem to have a ‘shelf’. I think it’s one of those things you get what you pay for

@Maneandfeathers

WOW, your lips look great. And yeah, if I am being honest, they do look better now. (After the filler.) Hope that doesn't offend anyone. Sometimes, lips that have been filled look bizarre. But yours look fab!

Still think Kylie Jenner's look OK. Sometimes they look weird, but I think they look nice on the pic I posted.

I didn’t the majority of those lips on that page looked bad at all! There were no duck faces or porn star lips.

maneandfeathers your lips look fantastic.
Where do you go to get them done?

You can spot the majority of lip fillers a mile off. It's the volume above the lip line and the shape from the side that give it away