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Scattering father’s ashes

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NamelessGem · 16/06/2019 17:55

My dad died last year, and my half sister (we share a mum) and my mother (had split from my father when I was 14 - I’m 28 now) have repeatedly muscled in. To keep this short but with a bit of back story ...

  • my aunt asked what dad would want for the funeral, when I said my ideas she purposefully made sure that wasn’t what we did.
  • my sister sent me photos of dad dying despite me begging her to give him some dignity and that I found them very distressing.
  • my mother hounded me at the funeral as to why I wasn’t crying, made herself centre of attention and kept referring to my dad’s partner, and woman who held his hand as he finally passed away as his ‘friend’. This lady loved my dad very much.
  • my sister overheard my ideas for scattering his ashes so went to collect them before anyone else could (she lives 15 miles away from the crem, I live 250.)
  • my sister also took all my dad’s belongings and began to sell them off.
  • every family member involved would hound me daily to pay for his funeral (my grandmother/his mum who is well off paid for it and I was demanded to pay her back. This was at Christmas)
  • after taking every physical item of my dad’s and his ashes, they caught wind that he had a pension policy to be paid to me and my twin brother ONLY to the tune of a few thousand pounds. They then demanded I share it with them. (My brother and I then split it to pay grandmother back, and kept the rest.)
  • I removed them from Facebook as the stress I was under twinned with the grief of losing Dad was too much and I wasn’t coping.
  • after removing them (my mother and sister) they made claims to our mutual friends that my husband abuses me (not true?!), that I was mad with grief, that things had gone on that no one knew about and I was only telling my side of things, my sister even made a video of her turning my dad’s ashes and saying how disgusted he would be that I’d turned my back on the family, that I am snobby and vile. My sister has even said I need to be smacked in the face with a brick.
  • my mother ‘likes’ these comments and writes very public displays of how much she loves my sister after her horrible comments about me. They’ve become very close throughout this and hidesouly toxic.

......that brings us to now. In a few days time it is my dad’s birthday, and the plan amongst us before the fallings out was to scatter his ashes somewhere that was special to him.

My grandmother has dementia and my mother has gone to see her (they are not close and weren’t when she was with my dad) to give her her version of events and now my sister and mother are playing sickly sweet and nice - have extended the olive branch to scatter dad’s ashes (despite my very Blatant UNINVITE earlier in the year)

So if I refuse to go, despite wanting to say a final goodbye to my DF very very much - I will look like the person they’ve been building me up to be.

But I know there will be snide comments and sly looks and deliberate snubs throughout the experience - it won’t be what I deeply wanted after being pushed out of the funeral.

After a really hard first father’s day without my own father I am feeling emotional and vulnerable again, and could really do without them starting all this up again now...

But they are all awaiting my reply and I don’t know if I am just BU to tell them all to fuck right off and go and lay some flowers elsewhere and have my own private moment.

Or will I regret not being the bigger person and showing up anyway after nearly a year of minimal contact

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user1497997754 · 16/06/2019 18:07

Your dad is in your heart and is with you very minute of every day. Personally I would not go your dad would be angry at the way you have been treated. Give yourself some self love and do something like plant something nice in the garden for him instead. Don't give them the satisfaction of turning up and being made to feel bad. Go no contact with them all go and enjoy your life free from them that is what your dad would have wanted for you that would be the best way to honour him.....big hugs xxxx

billysboy · 16/06/2019 18:08

Scattered my late fathers ashes last week so sympathise with your position
You can choose your friends but not your family !

I would try and go because once it is done its done , you will not have another opportunity

it will take a lot of strength but try to be the better person ,mabe point out why you are there if an argument starts

You will have plenty of time to remember him how you want and also the choice of whether or not to speak to them afterwards

NamelessGem · 16/06/2019 18:17

When my sister said my dad would be disgusted with me it devastated me - especially that her friends (that don’t know me or my dad) were all agreeing and laughing about it.

I feel like they’ve tried to rewrite history and omit my existence, or the love that dad had for me (I was a daddy’s girl when we were younger)

I know you are right but they are so clever at guilt tripping me and leaving me feeling in turmoil :/

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Asdfghjklll · 16/06/2019 18:21

Are you close to your twin? Are they going? If you can face it then go but keep your distance.

NamelessGem · 16/06/2019 18:31

we Are quite close, the last time I spoke to him he said he wasn’t ready to say goodbye yet - he and dad were very very close for the last few years and he is hit the hardest by it.

So I don’t know if he will go.

He is easily pushed into what they want though, they treated him just as badly with the funeral plans etc although did let him choose the music - and twisted things so much they told him he should be grateful for their controlling of it all...

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user1497997754 · 16/06/2019 18:38

You are the better person and you don't need to go to prove that.....don't fuel the drama by going....keep your dignity ....it will end in tears.....Your dad would not want that for you

user1497997754 · 16/06/2019 18:40

Why don't you and your brother do something together to honour your dad

pessimisticstateofperception · 16/06/2019 18:46

I wouldn't give in to their drama.

Go and do something your dad would have liked, take some time to look through photos and play music he loved, write some memories of him in a book, go to the pub and have his favourite drink, go somewhere special to the two of you and think about him for a while, but I really wouldn't go to scatter his ashes with these people. They will not be supportive, kind or sympathetic and will only make you feel worse.

It's ok to cut abusive people out of your life, even if you're supposed to love them. You need to be a little selfish sometimes and look out for yourself.

I would cut all tiesf from here on it.

I hope the day is as gentle on you as possible, whatever you decide Flowers

Redred2429 · 16/06/2019 18:57

Firstly I'm so sorry for your loss! I would do what ever you feel is best for you I would focus on what you need and not worry about what people say I went NC with my mum in my teens due to how toxic and abusive she is and due to a medical condition she has I was made out to be horrible and vile by gossips that would fall for her pity act (especially because I Decided not to discuss my side of things with people outside my closest friends and family) it used to drive me crazy what people were saying! But now I have realised I don't care what people that are so misinformed think or say and I feel so much happier your dad would want you to grieve in your own way and be happy op don't let these toxic people get in your head!

NamelessGem · 16/06/2019 21:37

Thankyou @user1497997754 I did ask if we could do something as I have no hope of getting any of dad’s remains to ‘let go of’ and I’m struggling to grieve with the thought that she’s taken them for herself (and keeps them on her stairs like it’s any old crap)

He said he would like to do that but isn’t ready yet, which I respect. Maybe I’m not ready either as it’s not even been a year yet. Thankyou for your kind words x

@pessimisticstateofperception Thankyou so much you are right, I have been doing things like that on and off when I need to, although there’s still somethings I just can’t listen to or think about yet.

@Redred2429 you get it completely ! I always feel like it sounds so petty or like I’m lying if I try to explain that my mother loves to be pitied or adored and will twist stories to get that reaction from people, at the moment she is doing it to people who don’t know me well and while it shouldn’t bother me it does Confused but I’m slowly building up my self esteem again and remembering that I shouldn’t care what people I’ll never see think of me.
Sorry to hear your mum is a toxic bitch as well, it’s really hard to come to terms with isn’t it? Especially when there’s is so much emphasis on how we are family and that’s that and we should let family treat us however they want.

It’s only since moving away and starting a life with my lovely husband that’s Iv learnt how to communicate and discuss problems and issues and realise what toxic behaviour is and it’s led to me realising that there’s just no reasoning with them. They are dysfunctional and scared of change or admitting they are wrong.

Plus they don’t feel this loss like I do because they weren’t his daughter. So I like to think they don’t realise just how much pain they’ve caused me.

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