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Visitors after birth

28 replies

Name739017 · 07/06/2019 13:32

Currently pregnant with my first baby, due next week. In our group chat, DH’s sister has asked if she can come up next weekend to drop off a gift. We get on well but don’t see each other often as she’s about an hour away and doesn’t drive, we all work full time etc. I probably speak to her more than he does.

DH replies in the group chat that a visit would be fine and “we might even have a baby by then!”

Obviously as this is my first baby, I have no experience to draw on, but all the advice I’ve been given (by friends, NCT class, and reading mumsnet) has been that I may or may not want visitors immediately after the birth and that I should be cautious about making any plans. Basically I should see how it all goes, and invite people up once I know how I feel. If necessary, I might need to set expectations in advance. Thankfully our families are considerate people and not pushy although I have already said to my mum and dad that we’ll play visits by ear and plan something once the baby is here.

I don’t want to have to stick to a planned visit if the baby has come beforehand, and his response made me feel like I had to say that it might not be ok depending on how the birth goes, so I told her (politely) and she was fine about it.

I told DH how I feel about visitors and he basically said that if visitors want to come, they can come, and that he shouldn’t have to consult me about every decision before he replies to his own family.

For context- he has been working away in the week (and will do until the end of the month) so has not been to NCT with me. He hasn’t spoken to anyone about the first few weeks with a newborn. He doesn’t read about it online. We’ve obviously discussed having a baby a lot but perhaps we haven’t discussed this.

Also we are currently in a position with his work where (unless I can make it to 40+14) we will have to decide whether it’s better for DH to take paternity leave straight away after the birth, but then work away again for 7 weeks when baby is around 6 weeks old. Or, he can delay paternity leave until July which means I’ll be on my own with a newborn but worst case scenario is it would only be for 3 weeks and then he will be on paternity leave for two weeks then working locally indefinitely. He said recently that he expects to go straight back to work as “unless you have a c section, it will all be ok.” That might be true, but it also might not ... 🤷‍♀️ It made me feel like he has unrealistic expectations.

I ended up telling him I don’t feel supported because he’s not on the same page as me, which he didn’t take very well.

AIBU?
Please be kind to me, I’m feeling anxious about the birth and upcoming big life change.

OP posts:
snacksshouldbeforbreakfast · 07/06/2019 13:39

he basically said that if visitors want to come, they can come, and that he shouldn’t have to consult me about every decision before he replies to his own family.

^ this stands out to me. He's being a dick in all honesty. Yes it's also his child but he isn't going through childbirth and or possibly breastfeeding etc. I had severe internal tearing that resulted in surgery
after birth and I couldn't sit down comfortably for weeks. We limited visitors and for me it really helped.

As you say you won't know until baby is here. Some people love visitors which is also fine but he should follow your lead on this one.

His attitude is not on at all.

hormonesorDHbeingadick · 07/06/2019 13:40

He is being unreasonable.

Not to scare you but you maybe/probably bleeding heavily with golf ball size clots, could have just had major emergency surgery, have sore boobs after feeding for 20 out of 24 hours etc. He needs to educate himself a out what it is like to give birth.

Tell him that if he wants guests at home he must clear it with you first and even if you say yes, you and baby may need to go upstairs to rest.

snacksshouldbeforbreakfast · 07/06/2019 13:43

I didn't mean for my post to scare you op. I just meant that it shocked me how awful I felt for a while after and if my DH wasn't as supportive as he was then I think it would have been unforgivable and I couldn't get over that.

He was the one to say enough when relatives were being pushy and could see I'd had enough.

You're right to be open minded

Newmumma83 · 07/06/2019 13:43

Is he expecting to help you while on paternity leave?
Your literally pushing tiny human out of you.. you are going to be shattered, bleeding heavily, very sore, possible stitches down below . your going to need help.

You may get lucky and your little one may sleep ( ours did the first night anyhow ... my friends baby boy straight away ) on that basis if you can get some sleep then you have some hope but even if you breast feed he can still settle baby and change nappies to share the work load while you get into the swing of things

I worry either he expects to be doing nothing in terms of helping or he is going to pass out with the reality of a new born as amazing as it is it’s bloody hard going.

Is your mum close by? After my husband went back to work .. ( albeit little one did not sleep still after 3 weeks unless being held / acid reflux and wind issues ) he would still cover the last 3 hours of the night so I could semi function my mum would
Pop in and hold the baby for a couple of hours while I slept too ... and it really made all the difference.

Lack of sleep was making us hallucinate, and it’s really bad on your mental health long term. So please arrange back up
Help.

Set the expectations of what he is going to be doing.

Pre cook meals now and buy in cake ( you can cut and eat whilst holding a baby ... magic 😉)

I feel for you he would be making me worry you really need to
Discuss what he thinks his role is x x

herculepoirot2 · 07/06/2019 13:45

I told DH how I feel about visitors and he basically said that if visitors want to come, they can come, and that he shouldn’t have to consult me about every decision before he replies to his own family.

Wow. Put your foot down, OP. If people come to the house against your wishes, take the baby upstairs. He needs to respect your position as the person who is recovering from the birth.

Pinkvoid · 07/06/2019 13:46

Your DH is being a prick in all honesty but it may well just be that he has no idea what having a newborn is actually like so is being naive.

I had traumatic deliveries the first two times and a c-section with DC4. I didn’t have visitors for at least a week (aside from my Mum) and I was glad for it. It’s such a vulnerable time in a woman’s life, having visitors can feel suffocating and like an invasion of privacy in ways.

Treaclesweet · 07/06/2019 13:46

He's being a dick. There's an essay called the lemon clot essay with quite visceral post-birth description. I made my OH read it and I think it really helped to hammer it home for him.

redbedheadd · 07/06/2019 13:47

My DP was like this too. I did have a c section and we did have loads of guests... thankfully people didn't stay long and once we got over visitors in the first couple weeks we didn't have that many. In my head it got it out of the way at a time when everyone knew baby was tiny and I was recovering so there wasn't much expectation. Visitors ramped up again in the 3rd week and I was even putting on lunch for people 😟.

My DP is supportive and he helped me constantly after the birth but family is just so important for him that there's no way he would have told his family they couldn't come. It did annoy me but I got over it.

Try to let your DH know how you feel... and that isn't hard to predict at this stage so you would rather not make firm plans.

snacksshouldbeforbreakfast · 07/06/2019 13:48

Also his comments re needing more help with a c section only also isn't correct.

I think I'd have needed my DH's help more following my tear (including haemorrhage) than I did after my c section.

I felt the section a far better experience in terms of recovery. It was uncomfortable for sure but not as painful as my tear and I lost a third of what I did with my "natural" delivery so I felt much better in general.

Constance1234 · 07/06/2019 13:51

How long would she stay for? If it’s just a brief visit I don’t see the problem - she is your DH’s close family. There seems to be a weird thing on mumsnet where there is the encouragement for extended family to be ostracised once a new baby arrives. Maybe your husband put it crassly, but I can kind of see his point.

Not everyone ends up with ‘golf ball sized clots’ by the way, that is complete scaremongering!

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 07/06/2019 13:51

If you've had the baby and don't feel like visitors, just text SIL separately and say, I'm shattered, uncomfortable, just got out of hospital etc can we rearrange for another day. I'm sure she'll be fine. Your DH is clueless.
FWIW though I gave birth just before midnight, emergency ventouse and episiotomy because DS got stuck and had visitors at lunch time the next day, it was fine, u was breastfeeding but everyone was very good about giving us space etc and didn't stay long. If your families are reasonable usually in sure they will be now

redbedheadd · 07/06/2019 13:51

And yes I agree with PP... I was far more able than my sister who had a very tough VBAC. I only couldn't move around the first two days after my section.

JPK1510 · 07/06/2019 13:52

My baby is 17 days old I had the easiest birth was absolutely fine no problems after nothing. My partner went back to work 2 days after our baby was born and the resentment is absolutely something else. We needed him and he was at work. I just wanted support and that family time so my advice would be to keep him close.

Kungfupanda67 · 07/06/2019 13:55

If like you’ve said he has no experience of a new born he probably just doesn’t understand what it’s like. My husband was similar with our first, he knew we’d be tired but I think in his head once the actual birthing bit was done it was just having a new born, which he knew would be hard but didn’t quite comprehend the physical bits of just having given birth.

I had a very ‘easy’ labour, but his attitude was very different once he’d seen me being stitched up and the midwives examining the size of blood clots and watched me curl up in pain during the after contractions.

Unless he’s got form for being a massive bellend, give him the benefit of the doubt. Just reply to any messages with ‘great, we’d love to see you. Obviously may have to rearrange depending on baby, but hopefully we’ll see you Tuesday!’ Then decide after the baby is born.

Blondebakingmumma · 07/06/2019 14:00

Your DH sounds like a dick. Message his side of the family and let them know if you feel up for a visit.

Sheeply · 07/06/2019 14:18

Your Dh has forgotten that you are his wife and are pregnant with his child. He's behaving like a massive dickhead. Sorry.

hidinginthenightgarden · 07/06/2019 14:29

You might find you actually want visitors. I said I wouldn't based on what I had read on here but actually when my husband asked if someone could visit I was happy to have them over. The key point here I guess being that he asked me before just saying yes.
Message your SIL privatley and just remind her that there is a chance you may cancel and you hope she isn't offended if you do.

Name739017 · 07/06/2019 14:29

Thanks for all the replies so far and the reassurance that I’m not asking for something unreasonable.

@snacks - you said your DP was the one to see when it was getting overwhelming and manage that for you. That’s what I want from mine, just to feel like he’s got my back and looking out for me.

@newmumma - I think he is expecting to pitch in while on paternity leave. I’m more worried that he will go straight back to work thinking it will all be fine, because he’s made his mind up that it will all be fine and not factored in whether I agree! And I will really resent him like @JPK’s experience.

@treaclesweet - I’ll look up the lemon clot, thanks!

I don’t think I will have any issues managing visitors (in terms of being able to tell people not to come, or to keep visits short) as they will all listen to me and be respectful if I say not to come, but the conversation has just highlighted how we are on different pages and I need him on my page to feel supported! I think he is naive and being a bit of a twat with it (although he doesn’t really have form for twattery).

I will probably show him this thread at the weekend so he can see opinions from people who have been there!

OP posts:
Name739017 · 07/06/2019 14:31

@hidinginthenightgarden - exactly, I might like visitors so I was careful to say to him that I wanted to keep the visiting schedule open! I’m really aware that everyone has different experiences and that we won’t know what it’s like until it happens.

OP posts:
redexpat · 07/06/2019 14:34

I didnt think i wanted visitors but actually I couldnt wait to show ds off. But my ILs are wonderful and I didnt mind them seeing me in my nightie. Personally I think the way forward is to say lets wait and see how I feel.

PurpleFlower1983 · 07/06/2019 14:40

See how you feel, everyone is different. Your husband is being a dick though and you will need his support in those very early days.

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 07/06/2019 14:47

He might just be naïve I remember lying on the operating table having been rushed down there, and looking at DH who looked sick. He's told me since it looked like someone had chucked a bucket of blood on the floor, I was absolutely fine. He was very very attentive when DS was tiny and is still very involved and supportive now, he openly admits he thought he knew what we were letting ourselves in for but he actually had no idea, that's in terms of me in labour and the realities of having a newborn. If he's not usually a dick hopefully your DH will rethink things.

EAIOU · 07/06/2019 14:55

We had visitors within an hour of being home and at the hospital.

So if I was to do it again, I'd say no visitors until I was ready.

Stick to your guns, you will be exhausted and emotional regardless of how your birth goes (vaginal or section). Your body and mind will need time to adjust to everything so don't be pressurised or be made to feel bad.

EAIOU · 07/06/2019 14:59

Also congratulations and good luck!!; 😍🥰

Nuttyaboutnutella · 07/06/2019 15:09

The thing is, you have absolutely no idea how you will feel or how the birth will go.

With my first, I had a quick delivery but quite unwell after (fainting due to low blood pressure, blood loss, needed stitches) but welcomed immediate family on both sides. As it was, only our parents could meet DS as he needed time in SCBU.

DD was born last week, I was induced so had a more intense labour but I've recovered much better. Again, more than happy to have visitors and even begged my Friend to come down as I was bored out of my mind (stuck in hospital for a few days and DP was with out eldest).

Don't completely rule it out, just see how you feel. Does it sister have children herself? If so, she'll understand if you don't want to commit to anything just yet. Congratulations and good luck Flowers

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