To ask you to stop flying

[Walkingthere]

We are facing a climate disaster. Our children will have to live through it. And yet I overheard two women today discussing how many holidays abroad they had been on this year. Both over 60 years of age. Obviously it will not directly impact on them.
This is also very common in my social group, people jetting off 4-5 times a year. Mini-breaks, weekends away, European trips, long haul, hen do's, weddings, birthdays. It's unbelievable how much people are burying their heads in the sand.

We need to stop flying. Urgently. Now. My family have not flown in over 5 years. We used to travel a lot, before we realised the consequences. I am putting this here, to make people think, we all need to urgently reduce (ideally stop) flying now.

Ditch your cars then, OP. Walk to work.

You do know that just because you choose not to fly somewhere that the plane is still going there. If the world is going to end I'm going to have a holiday once a year. My two now grown children fly more than me.

a lot of people say they love their dc but refuse to make any changes, i'm often hearing 'not my problem,' it's so ignorant. i can drive but choose not to and i don't fly anymore, but planes will still fly whether i'm on board or not.

I've not flown for my holiday for 3 years - I have however driven my diesel suv to the south of France and back - which I'm sure is fine

focus on business user and people who could find alternatives but stop being so preachy - we're not thick

we also need to ban all single use plastic (like they have in Kenya), plastic packaging in supermarkets, disposable cups, disposable nappies, only bars of soap (rather than a choice of 40 different varieties of liquid soap in plastic bottles) You should not be allowed to dump/bin ANY items that still have life left - don't like the colour of your sofa/think its a bit grubby? then you get it reupholstered, rather than buy a new one. Same goes for beds, tables, chairs. What about baby and toddler car seats? Surely someone could come up with a way of safety checking them and putting new covers on them rather than most going into refuse after 1 or 2 childrens use. The list of things we could do (aside from walk everywhere) is huge, but we are an impatient, convenience based consumer society and until it becomes trendy and cost effect to reupholster rather than replace landfill will increase and we will continue to use resources.

Also I've just seen your reply to another thread OP and you are a two car family, so you have absolutely no right to tell anybody to stop doing anything.

Haha! Brilliant.

Such a serious issues, such a patronising OP.

I knew before I even got to it in your post that you would have travelled a lot in the past.

So it's ok for you and your family to have travelled but I should miss out?

Sorry, no.

Also : stop having children, become vegan, stop driving.

We all KNOW what is needed to save the planet, but we just can’t do it.
All we can hope for is that tiny changes MIGHT make a difference, but we live in a capitalist world...and that ain’t gonna change in 11.5 years.

Basically, we’re fucked!

You're no David Attenborough OP.

2 kids and no TV? Really?

Last time I flew was ten years ago. I also don’t drive and use public transport / walk. Do I get a prize?

I'd def do something about that possible third child brewing OP. Imagine if they got a job with the foreign office!

Your example was rude.

How many kids do you have OP, and have you considered the carbon footprint there?

Walkingthere

When you stop your celebrity preachers flying over at short notice then come back and have a go at everyone else.

In other words

Get your own house in order before preaching to everyone else.

I don't fly or have a car, I walk or bike everywhere

the fact I can't afford either a holiday or a car is probably the main reason

2 kids and 2 cars. Yeah

What about having less children?

Looking at you Duke and Duchess of Cambridge who love to care about the environment whilst flying around with their carbon footprint heavy large family.

Prince William warns ‘clock is ticking’ towards environment tipping point

No. One of my adult children lives on a different continent. Are you really suggesting I should never see them again? Btw, I don't have one car, never mind two...

YABU.

Our children will have to live through it

Not if we don't have any they won't! I'm thinking everyone not having children is the way forward. I've made the conscious decision not to have any of my own.

You can't ask people to stop flying OP, in the same way you can't ask them not to procreate, or stop eating meat, or stop using plastic. I mean you CAN, but it won't get you very far. Everyone knows what impact they're having so it's up to the individual to either decide for themselves to stop, or up to the governments to make drastic changes.

At least try not to contribute to population increase.
Max two children per couple.

That's okay, isn't it, OP?

Wow. Lucky you. People in your 'social group' can afford 4 or 5 foreign holidays a year.

Stop trying to guilt trip people that maybe have a fairly shit life and manage to save up occasionally - every 2 or 3 years - into not flying and thereby saving the planet! For some people a rare package holiday is something to look forward to.

They don't need to be lectured to by well off patronising idiots.

Flying in an aeroplane with another 2 or 300 people must surely be less damaging to the environment than people popping into say 150 cars to go on holiday. That said why should I give up foreign holidays at the time of my life when I can afford to go. You seem to have already been priveleged to go on many foreign holidays OP

You should not be allowed to dump/bin ANY items that still have life left - don't like the colour of your sofa/think its a bit grubby? then you get it reupholstered, rather than buy a new one. Funnily enough, I looked into this, and it was cheaper to buy two brand new sofas rather than get one of the old ones reupholstered.

I have good feather pillows that are marked on the outside. It is cheaper to buy new than to get them dry cleaned....same with the mattress toppers.