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To ask you to stop flying

999 replies

Walkingthere · 05/06/2019 21:16

We are facing a climate disaster. Our children will have to live through it. And yet I overheard two women today discussing how many holidays abroad they had been on this year. Both over 60 years of age. Obviously it will not directly impact on them.
This is also very common in my social group, people jetting off 4-5 times a year. Mini-breaks, weekends away, European trips, long haul, hen do's, weddings, birthdays. It's unbelievable how much people are burying their heads in the sand.

We need to stop flying. Urgently. Now. My family have not flown in over 5 years. We used to travel a lot, before we realised the consequences. I am putting this here, to make people think, we all need to urgently reduce (ideally stop) flying now.

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goodwinter · 05/06/2019 22:47

@Lifeover that's a great infographic, thanks for sharing.

TheAverageJuror · 05/06/2019 22:47

@Davros Delete that! You will give Farage and others new ammunition 😂

IsabellaLinton · 05/06/2019 22:48

There's no way to recycle or hand-me-down or UK-holiday your way out of the epic decision to produce children, particularly beyond 2

Maybe if you’re wealthy and American. The lifetime carbon footprint of an American in the top 1% income bracket will be 50-100 times greater than that of someone in the bottom 20% of world income.

Aroundtheworldandback · 05/06/2019 22:49

If no one flew anywhere how would there be understanding of other cultures? I also think it’s business people that should curtail where possible. I want my children to see the world but obviously not at the expense of the environment.

IsabellaLinton · 05/06/2019 22:49

Its almost as ironic as Dame Emma Thompson flying to the UK for the environmental protests

She’s an outrageous hypocrite. How does she not realise this?

Ra1nSunRa1nAga1n · 05/06/2019 22:50

I'm having a couple of staycation holidays, but also a long haul later in the year

SrSteveOskowski · 05/06/2019 22:50

I live in Ireland. Unless I swim, I have no other way of leaving the island.

ADarkandStormyKnight · 05/06/2019 22:50

Maybe Emma felt that the cost:benefit ratio justified it.

Darkcloudsandsunnydays · 05/06/2019 22:51

We need to cut the population growth to one child per couple and cull the old people over the age of 35 now. This will have to be done under a labour dictatorship.

Bouncebacker · 05/06/2019 22:51

I fly for work and with my family, we fly to new places, countries, cities, we learn about people, cultures, nature and environment which are different from our own. Connectedness I think is the only route to saving the world, collective responsibility which comes from understating the perspective of others, which means meeting others, which means travelling as I have the resources and others don’t.

OldUnit · 05/06/2019 22:51

I'd like to see more people investing in UK holidays to be honest. We live in such a beautiful, diverse country. I wonder that it isn't appreciated more widely.

ADarkandStormyKnight · 05/06/2019 22:51

I live in Ireland. Unless I swim, I have no other way of leaving the island.

Have the ferries stopped?

BoneyBackJefferson · 05/06/2019 22:53

ADarkandStormyKnight
Maybe Emma felt that the cost:benefit ratio justified it.

LOL

Or maybe it was just a chance to get her name in the press and virtue signal.

Unless she comes on here we will never know.

JeanBodel · 05/06/2019 22:54

YANBU OP. Shocked at the responses on this thread.

EleanorOalike · 05/06/2019 22:54

@TheAverageJuror are you actually meShock?

I don’t physically plant them myself but I do offset any flights I take and only fly with airlines that allow and support this.

I’m with you on everything else, recycling wise and having a generally green lifestyle.

I have in my 35 years had two foreign holidays per year on 5 occasions, done about 7 years with no holidays at all but most years I go on one long haul family holiday so I can have some valuable time with my loved ones and those who can afford it will occasionally come to visit me.

That aside, I have a fairly lonely green life.

BetterEatCheese · 05/06/2019 22:55

The fashion industry far outstrips aviation. We really need to look at that urgently too

OldUnit · 05/06/2019 22:55

Did the option she took of flying business class also outweigh the negative environmental impacts of air travel too? Hmm

mockorangey · 05/06/2019 22:55

www.myclimate.org/

This site is interesting. I put in a return flight from London to NYC and it says this produces 2.1t of carbon, whereas we should be producing no more than 0.6t per person to halt climate change. 12000 miles per year in a medium sized car produces 5.6t.

recklessgran · 05/06/2019 22:57

When the climate changes here to almost guaranteed sun in the summer I'll stop flying OP.

AngeloMysterioso · 05/06/2019 22:57

Those planes are gonna take off regardless of whether or not I’m on them.

goodwinter · 05/06/2019 22:58

Maybe if you’re wealthy and American. The lifetime carbon footprint of an American in the top 1% income bracket will be 50-100 times greater than that of someone in the bottom 20% of world income.

I could be wrong but I would imagine a MC British person is much closer in terms of carbon footprint to a wealthy American than someone in the bottom 20% of world income (which looks to be around $1,000 per year according to the closest stats I could find ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Global-Inc-Distribution-2003-and-2013-1-768x538.png)

MsMD · 05/06/2019 22:58

I think I'm going to continue visiting my mom 3500 miles away thanks.

EleanorOalike · 05/06/2019 22:59

What I will say is that I’ve just returned from a stay with family in the US and the throwaway culture, ridiculous amount of plastic and general lack of care and respect or basic knowledge about the environment was appalling. Even my elderly mother was marching up to restaurant, cafe and shop managers and demanding to know why they didn’t recycle and why they used plastic bags.

It was terrifying and we had a very difficult time finding recycling facilities. We did however notice that when we were seen to be recycling we were often thanked by members of the public and told “not many people do that here!”.

goodwinter · 05/06/2019 23:00

Those planes are gonna take off regardless of whether or not I’m on them.

Yes, but if fewer people decided to take flights, then fewer flights would happen... are you being facetious here?

TheAverageJuror · 05/06/2019 23:01

@EleanorOalike soulmates😂

I wonder if anyone else plants, or just runs their gobs... Helping environment isn't just about giving up things. It's also about doing things. Like planting stuff.