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To ask "friend" to politely leave me alone

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ILoveEurovision · 03/06/2019 09:36

I helped a friend of a friend out with a legal issue recently (can't specify but it was for a good cause). She knew that I'm on maternity leave and dealing with my baby and fitting things in when I could but kept badgering me for silly things and expecting me to be at her beck and call for emotional support even though I was only offering to get involved on the legal front. Basically we were asking a third party to sell us something they owned and she kept wanting me to chase them for updates in a way which was inappropriate (given that we were asking said third party to do us a favour by selling this item, and they said they would take the item to auction in 2 month's time and give us the details - it would have been weird to contact them every week to check that they were still going to do it), and constantly wanting reassurance from me that the third party wasn't lying. I kept telling her that I thought the third party was telling the truth but if they weren't then we had no other option anyway. She seemed a bit weird and even sent someone to spy on the third party because she thought they were lying and then sent me lots of dramatic messages, to which I could only reply that I thought they were telling the truth but if they are lying about selling the item there is nothing that we can do 🤷‍♀️ Basically, she got very emotionally involved and looked to me for emotional support frequently.

I revealed to her that I have PND which is quite bad some days. She still kept turning to me for an emotional hand-hold over this matter even when I made it clear that I wasn't in a fit state to do so. She seems to think we're close friends and that she can dump all her emotions on me and I will open up to her about my depression. I've made it clear that I don't want to talk and am generally busy with the baby etc. We've never met and only corresponded via phone/text etc.

The original legal matter is largely resolved now and the third party was true to their word but she has got involved into a further dispute with someone else which is related to the same matter! I feel that this isn't what I signed up for but I have helped her out briefly with this new issue, but again tried to make it clear that I don't want to get too involved and don't want to be her shoulder to cry on.

I guess I don't mind if she has a further legal query but she keeps texting me asking me how I am. I don't really want to explain how my mental health is to her and tbh I don't even like being asked. I can't quite articulate why although I guess it sort of makes me think about the days when I have been really low and try and gauge how today compares to that, which involves me thinking about my worst days and the ways I am still struggling.

I've tried not answering but then she bombards me with messages in every way she can (text, email, phone etc.), if I fob her off with "fine" she'll think it's the green light to ask me to emotionally support her on this new matter, I've tried "not great but been worse" and then there are still lots of follow ups where she wants to talk about how I am and how she is. I feel like I've got my DH to turn to for support with my PND and don't need this stranger who I've never met and definitely don't want to be burdened with her worries - she's got a DH too who should he the one to support her or she should ask a friend I guess.

How can I politely ask her to stop? I kind of want to say if she sends me a legal query about this new issue then I'll try to deal with it when I can on a good day, but I don't want to talk about my mental health. I have kind of said all this before though but maybe I need to be firmer. Does anyone have a good explanation of why it's not good to keep asking people with MH issues how they are at least?

Sorry for the essay Blush

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Piffle11 · 03/06/2019 10:52

Please don't offer to deal with any new legal queries she has: you did this once and look what has happened. You may have to face the fact that getting rid of her nicely is no longer an option. Give some people an inch and they really will take a mile. If you really don't want to do the 'please fuck off and leave me alone' bit, then I would suggest something short and to the point: 'I'm not doing well and can't cope with other people's issues right now'. and leave it at that - no 'sorry', no 'I'll contact you soon', nothing. Don't leave the door open to further contact and DO NOT offer her further help, ever.

Hk24498 · 03/06/2019 10:56

You shouldn't give legal advice outside of a legal workplace in any event as you are not insured to do so, it is unprofessional and, if you are a solicitor, a breach of the SRA code of conduct.

IrishGal21 · 03/06/2019 10:56

Say your GP has told you to cut social media out of your life for your own MH... :) and yuo are having a 6 month detox of it...she will soon find someone else to harrass

Booboooo · 03/06/2019 11:07

How have you never met her and yet are giving her all this help?

Beautiful3 · 03/06/2019 11:10

I would tell her that due to an illness, you cannot continue with the legal correspondence. Recommend some names and wish her all the best. I would then block her number if she becomes abusive. It's down to you to make your life as uncomplicated and a positive one. Your mental health is precious, eliminate all bad energies. You don't owe this person ANYTHING.

ScreamingLadySutch · 03/06/2019 11:28

Did you send MatildaTheCat text?

It is perfect and can't be beat.

Look after yourself, OP. The Universe sends us messages. This person was sent to you to let you know, that you have holes in your self care shield.

That is what you need to focus on, caring for the wonderful human being that is ILoveEurovision and not giving too much of yourself away, and instantly shutting down exploitation of that wonderful human being, the first instant that it is signalled.

Other peoples porous boundaries are not your problem. Your holes in your protective self care shield is!

ScreamingLadySutch · 03/06/2019 11:30

Here is that perfect response again for you:

" ‘Dear Friend of friend, thanks for your concern, I’m doing well but my GP has advised me to stop all work related stuff whilst I’m on Mat leave so I’m going to follow her advice. I hope your x issues is resolved anyway. You probably won’t hear from me much going forward as I’m going to be concentrating on DC but all the best.’

Then block her number."

ILoveEurovision · 03/06/2019 12:15

Thanks everyone. The thing I was involved in with her wasn't really advice - it was more asking this third party nicely and diplomatically (after our mutual friend contacted them and pissed them off) if they would mind selling something that they owned which would then be given to charity. They agreed to sell it at auction and let us know when and where etc. and so I thought it would be pretty easy.

This new issue is that one of the people who the friend of a friend got involved to help fund the purchase has decided she thinks she owns the item and is trying to get it back off the charity. The charity stupidly forgot to get her to sign a form saying it was a gift and can't afford their own legal advice, but as much as I feel sorry for them I think we are now straying into areas where there are conflict issues and I don't have insurance.

So I'll send her a version of MatildaTheCat's message with some extra references about being not allowed to advise the charity. Thanks everyone.

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ILoveEurovision · 03/06/2019 12:33

This is what I sent in the end.

"Dear X, thanks for your concern. I’m OK but my GP has advised me to stop being involved in this matter or corresponding with you and I’m going to have to follow her advice for the sake of my mental health. I got involved because I thought it would just involve me having a quick diplomatic conversation with Y but it has been quite draining and turned into something that I cannot assist with going forward. Amongst other things, if Z need advice after they forgot to ask Q to sign the form then as much as I have sympathy for them on reflection I am not permitted to provide it because a conflict of issues arises. I hope the issue is resolved anyway. You probably won’t hear from me going forward as I’m going to be concentrating on my son but all the best x"

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Beautiful3 · 03/06/2019 12:41

Well done @ILoveEurovision. Enjoy your time with your baby and I wish you all the best.

KatherineJaneway · 03/06/2019 12:51

Very good message

ILoveEurovision · 03/06/2019 12:54

I just wanted to add that this is why I love MN. I already feel so much better having sent that.

This person has done things in the last few weeks after she knew I had PND (which I really only told her about to get her off my back) like leave me long 10 minute WhatApp audio messages in tears because she wasn't allowed time off work to go to the auction and had to send someone else or about how she feels our mutual friend let her down by not being more involved with this matter at the end. I don't need this drama in my life!

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Tinkobell · 03/06/2019 12:54

Good response OP, now do block or ignore any other comms from her - completely, 100%. There's something weird going on here with you. She wants a bit of you. It's not the first time on Mumsnet that mums of newborns seem to get bizarrely targeted by other women ....I'm not sure what it's all about maybe developing a co dependency at a point when someone's going through a bit of a personal low-patch. But do beware. I'd log any further comms, do not respond and if it carries on consider a more serious intervention - letter saying get lost or a police warning.

Apolloanddaphne · 03/06/2019 13:02

It all sounds like a lot of drama which doesn't involve you at all. I hope she heeds your message.

WillLokireturn · 03/06/2019 13:02

Well done @ILoveEurovision

Diplomatically put and very clear too.

Feel free to block her on phone, WhatsApp, text and email now. You've done your bit and deserve the peace and quiet baby and you need for the rest of your maternity leave and all those scrumbly early years XXX

It's wonderful that you've found MN PPs so supportive and found that it's helped you deal with it FlowersFlowers
Keep posting if you need more support but she is behaving bizarrely.
You sound a lovely person and I hope your PND starts to wain once you stop taking on others' random demands on you as well as the huge constantly exhausting effort it takes to adjust to and care for a young baby.

candycane222 · 03/06/2019 13:03

Great message. You don't owe her ANY obligations, and your message - very politely - makes that 100% clear. So you can put that one to bed now.

Take it easy!

Tinkobell · 03/06/2019 13:05

I'd be pretty hacked off with the friend who initially referred this woman onto you...presumably you havent had any financial gain from it and people this woman are generally known to be extremely high maintenance! Without being rude, I'd let the original "friend" know that you've finished dealing with "X" and am now taking a total break....no more referrals thank you!

ILoveEurovision · 03/06/2019 13:21

I'd be pretty hacked off with the friend who initially referred this woman onto you...presumably you havent had any financial gain from it and people this woman are generally known to be extremely high maintenance!

Tbh I suspect our mutual friend will be encouraging her to contact me! We all have a mutual interest to do with saving these items rather than it being ordinary friendships (but I have at least met the original friend!!) but the more I think about it it's now really an issue between the charity and this other person who wants the item back and I just can't help because of conduct issues. I hadn't even really thought about that before (not thinking 100% clearly I general right now).

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WillLokireturn · 03/06/2019 13:25

Tinkobell makes a very good point. I'd let the original friend know that she's been very demanding and you can't do any more .

mumwon · 03/06/2019 13:37

If I want to get out of something I always use my dh as an excuse -ie my dh doesn't want me to do/or has told me not to do this (& inform him of what to say!) :)

MatildaTheCat · 03/06/2019 13:41

Well done. You just enjoy the rest of your leave and stop giving her any more headspace.

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 13:46

I love the use of 👍

I use it a LOT 😉

BlueSkiesLies · 03/06/2019 13:59

"I'm extremely busy with my baby and I am well supported by my husband and friends. I've been getting far too many messages from you, to the point that it's intrusive now and needs to stop. I hope you get all your issues resolved and wish you well, but please do not contact me again".

This is perfect

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 14:10

Or just reply "really busy👍"every time she asks how you are. She'll get the message.

SmellsLikeAdultSpirit · 03/06/2019 14:21

It was a good message OP
Is anyone else despa to know what items are so precious they are bringing this group together? Wink