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… to think this is NOT "a nice problem to have"?

49 replies

MissUGirl · 02/06/2019 15:52

My respect for The Guardian declines on a daily basis.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/02/dear-mariella-frostrup-my-friends-husbands-keep-hitting-on-me

OP posts:
1forAll74 · 02/06/2019 16:49

Why on earth would any woman aged 60,want to even write to Mariella about this so called problem. At this age,they should be women of the world, and surely know how to deal with ageing men,who usually are not up to much anyway !

FreudianSlipSlide · 02/06/2019 16:50

I tried couldn’t comment on it this morning to protest. Has she been smoking her socks!?? Did she sleep through #metoo?

That poor woman is in a horrendous situation with lecherous male friends sexually harassing /assaulting her.

Mariella often misses the point but her advice this time is beyond awful.

ghostyslovesheets · 02/06/2019 16:53

her defence on Twitter is even worse - she says it's not sexual assault it's just 'sexual advances' - no it's 'putting his hand all over' her - that IS fucking assault - god she's a vile appologist

Mythologies · 02/06/2019 16:54

If you look back through her articles and Mumsnet archives you will see she has form for this kind of dangerous, misogynistic drivel.
Mumsnet's finest have had to step in to the comment section on more than one occasion.
Perhaps it is time to make our voices heard to the editorial board?

FirstGirlonMars · 02/06/2019 16:59

I know, is Mariella having some kind of breakdown? Her 'advice' was just surreal. FWIW, my mum still gets hit on in her late 70s, and she doesn't take it a compliment I can tell you!

PenguinWings · 02/06/2019 17:01

I completely agree. I knew that this would be what you were talking about when I saw your post title.

JuneFromBethesda · 02/06/2019 17:10

Can’t stand her on R4 either.

Me neither, I always switch off the minute I hear her voice.

I think the letter writer touched a nerve by suggesting she was unattractive due to her age, as she's only four years older than Mariella.

I think you're right.

Pinotjo · 02/06/2019 17:11

Crikey, I cant believe what I've just read, from a woman no less

onalongsabbatical · 02/06/2019 17:19

Well this outs me but who cares, I just tweeted her this - Three threads and counting on Mumsnet, unanimous opinions that your column was horrible victim-blaming dark-ages 'advice'. Have you been asleep the last couple of years? Unwanted sexual advances involving inappropriate touching NOT NICE; from friends' husbands, FFS!

Provincialbelle · 02/06/2019 17:19

Read her twitter feed - it’s even worse, she’s doubling down on it and making no effort to acknowledge the horrible position the letter writer was in. (Lose her friendships or suffer unwanted groping in silence.) Why has the Guardian left that sick garbage online?

isthatabloborwhat · 02/06/2019 17:22

Nice problem to have

WTF???

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 02/06/2019 17:25

Marielle is really getting it on MN today - I think I've seen three threads about her 'advice'.

Yeah, sure, being letched at and groped 'is a nice problem'.

I gave up on the Guardian years ago, mostly because its journos understood nothing about rural Britain, and clearly they're not too hot on feminism either.

PinguDance · 02/06/2019 17:43

Mariella’s ‘advice’ is consistently awful, usually just an opportunity to navel gaze and write at length about herself. The comments are usually much better advice. Annalisa Barbeiri on the other hand - what a champion.

Whosorrynow · 02/06/2019 17:43

I read a bit of it but I could just hear her smug voice Hmm

SchadenfreudePersonified · 02/06/2019 17:53

The victim blaming tone throughout is horrible

I thought that - the "are you sure you're not enjoying this?".

Disgusting!

Mimsy123 · 02/06/2019 18:02

Thank you Pretorika I’m glad you got it anyway Smile

SchadenfreudePersonified · 02/06/2019 18:04

Mariella must be a desperate old slapper if she thinks that random groping from any old bloke whatsoever is better than being ignored. Most of us have more self-respect and respect for our partners.

Apart from anything - this type of male behaviour has nothing to do with sexual attraction, and everything to do with power and control.

I have a horrible feeling that these men are sharing their vile behaviour with each other, having a good laugh about her, and picking on her because they have discovered that she finds it difficult and embarrassing to loudly stop their nastiness. Bastards - and women like MF are enablers for them.

S1naidSucks · 02/06/2019 18:31

1forAll74 Sun 02-Jun-19 16:49:23
Why on earth would any woman aged 60,want to even write to Mariella about this so called problem. At this age,they should be women of the world, and surely know how to deal with ageing men,who usually are not up to much anyway!

So you commented on a thread about victim blaming to essentially blame the 60yr old woman for being sexually harassed? Maybe she finds it difficult to deal with BECAUSE she’s a 60yr old woman that has been socialised to put up with sexual harassment or be treated as an uptight woman with no sense of humour, as were most women of her generation. I’m 51yr old and it’s only in recent years that I’ve found my voice, so stop blaming her for what men do!

herculepoirot2 · 02/06/2019 18:51

I think she was being sarcastic because of the OP’s insinuation that she would understand the totally inappropriate behaviour “if only” she dressed “sexy” (read slutty).

cinnamontoast · 03/06/2019 10:31

I've just written to the Guardian to complain about Mariella Frostrup's 'advice' to this poor woman. You're supposed to check their editorial code of conduct first, and they say they won't deal with complaints that aren't covered by the code. This one isn't, but if you ask me, they need to change their code of conduct it they think it's acceptable to tell a woman suffering sexual assault that it's a 'nice problem to have'.

Mousetolioness · 03/06/2019 16:01

I wondered if MF might have been playing devil's advocate until I read the piece. Nope.

SerenDippitty · 03/06/2019 16:15

Awful piece. Mariella seems think that male attention is the be alland end all and even unwanted male attention is better than none.

withaheyandahoandaheyheyho · 03/06/2019 16:20

It's horrendous advice... Actually, it's not even advice, is it? It's minimising followed by victim blaming, followed by 'what about the menz'.
Never liked Mariella much to begin with but I'll be writing in to complain about this load of shit.

RabbityMcRabbit · 03/06/2019 16:33

I lost all respect for the Guardian when they reported on the Oscar Pistorius case and also the sexual assaults in Cologne. The victim-blaming in those 2 articles was just as bad, if not worse, than it is in the MF article

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