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AIBU to ask for advice on cheating partner

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Needsseriousadvice · 02/06/2019 09:27

I’m new to mumsnet and never posted before but regularly read your AIBU threads and feel I need your help. I’ll try to give all details so I’m sorry if this gets long!
I’ve been with my partner for 3.5yrs. I’m divorced with an 8yr old daughter. She met him two years ago- I wanted to wait until I was really sure about him before I let her meet him. She adores him. We spend a lot of time together as a family. He is a lot older than me and has a granddaughter who is 10. She spends a lot of time with us as well and we all get on and have a big family holiday booked in August. The girls adore each other and I have a reasonable relationship with their mum so should be able to retain contact if I split with my partner but it would be awkward. He has (that I’m aware of!) been communicating in a very loving way with his ex for the last 2yrs (i found out shortly after my daughter had met him-grrr!). He clearly misses her and wants her attention and she returns it but doesn’t want to get back with him because she has her own life. They both say it’s no threat to my relationship but it is because it hurts me and he doesn’t see it. He lies to me and hides when he’s met her, but I find out because I’m suspicious and have got the code to his phone and email password- I know it’s wrong but I just don’t trust him. I’ve threatened to leave on many occasions but he gets angry and manages to make me feel like I’m overreacting and cites the fact that we have so many plans together. What he NEVER does is reassure me and tell me he loves me. He just repeats that I’m being unreasonable and she’s no threat. He sent her flowers, chocolates and a bear on her birthday and hasn’t apologised and doesn’t accept he’s done anything wrong. I’ve now discovered that he’s messaging another woman as well. At the moment it’s just reminiscing about their sexual past but it’s very flirty and only started on Wednesday. His family tell me he loves me- but he doesn’t. He’s cheated on everyone in his life in the past. I think he just needs attention from women- he’s quite self centred and has little will power and he’s conscious he’s getting older and keeps saying I’ll leave him for someone younger. I suspect he does this to reassure himself he’s still sexy and wanted by women. He’s very involved in my family and I love him dearly. Other than this we get on really well and he’s great company! I have no problem with his age- I’ve always gone for older men (please don’t judge- it’s just my preference!!). I don’t want to upset the girls by splitting up with him and I don’t think it’s healthy to be in a relationship where I don’t trust him. I can’t tell him I know about the latest messages because then he’ll know I’ve been through his phone again and he uses the fact that I do this as a reason he hides everything. He doesn’t understand that I only do it because I don’t trust him and I realise this is cyclical that needs to stop. What would you do? I’ve always been cheated on by partners and in the past I’ve just upped and left- but it has left me very insecure so I know that doesn’t help. I don’t know whether I should keep going or not. I don’t know whether he plans to meet this latest woman or just keep flirting with her over messages to boost his ego. He does always tell me that he doesn’t want to lose me and he wants to be in my life- but he won’t commit either and refuses to tell me he loves me- which hurts. I feel very confused because I do love him and don’t want to finish with him and normally wouldn’t have a problem walking away. Our plans are important but I know they’re not a reason for staying together- but it would disappoint them hugely if we didn’t all go together. What do you think I should do?

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EdinaMonsoon · 02/06/2019 09:32

He’s a self-centred attention-seeking asshole. Why would you stay with him?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 02/06/2019 09:36

Leave. Too much drama. He won't change.

NormaNameChange · 02/06/2019 09:37

I’m sorry, that all sounds incredibly tough but If you re read back your thread, you have the answer already

He does always tell me that he doesn’t want to lose me and he wants to be in my life- but he won’t commit either and refuses to tell me he loves me- which hurts.

He’s told you how he feels, the only question left is, do you want to spend another 3 years of your life giving your all to someone who doesn’t love you & gives no commitment in return ? Aren’t you worth more than that? Flowers

Runkle · 02/06/2019 09:37

Leave.

user1493413286 · 02/06/2019 09:40

Would you want your daughter to be a relationship like this? As your daughter gets older and becomes aware of what he’s like and how he treats you the more impact it will have on her and her understanding of relationships. Is this what you want her to grow up thinking is a normal relationship?
For me that’s the best test of a relationship to think that way.

Laurajjj · 02/06/2019 09:52

Bin him off. Life is too short to be with guys like that.

PregnantSea · 02/06/2019 10:09

Leave. He makes you unhappy and he won't tell you he loves you. He sends flirty messages to other women and lies about it. Just leave.

Pinkvoid · 02/06/2019 10:18

Sorry but I did chuckle when I read ‘other than that he’s a really lovely man’ Grin. Other than the fact he’s cheated on every woman he’s ever been with including you?

Bin him.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 02/06/2019 10:21

He's not a really lovely man, he's consciously choosing to act in ways which cause you hurt and upset. So he's a shit. You can cover a shit in glitter and perfume and it'll still be a shit.

You can't stay in a relationship just because your DD gets on with his granddaughter.

Needsseriousadvice · 02/06/2019 12:24

So it’s a resounding “leave” then! (You’re all
much better than the government 😂). I know deep down that this can’t continue, but I’ve fallen for him so much and involved him so heavily in our lives. My daughter will be so upset if I leave him and I don’t not want him in my life. Whilst he refuses to tell me he loves me, he has told his daughter (and she’s told me!) and even his ex told me he loves me. I really think that he’s just so self centred that he needs everyone to love him and he can’t tolerate the idea that a past love doesn’t want him anymore. I realise this makes him a shit in many ways, but I’ve had consistent bad experiences with men- they all cheat on me. Do you not think that “better the devil I know”- I don’t think he’s having physical affairs- he’s just looking for lots of women to flirt with him and boost his ego. Ok- as I write this I know that sounds awful....but if I left him and eventually found someone else, they might go and have a physical affair.....I don’t know....I guess I was hoping one of you might think I should stay come up with an idea. I really don’t want to leave. But he won’t change and, you’re right, I’m very unhappy and hate being so suspicious!

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TanyaChix · 02/06/2019 13:00

I’d leave him. You don’t send flowers, chocolates and a bear to an ex when you’re in a relationship. You don’t send messages to someone else reminiscing about about sex when you’re in a relationship. He’s got a history of cheating. He sounds like he just doesn’t respect appropriate boundaries and that in turn means he isn’t respecting you. Unless he’s prepared to have therapy to work out why he keeps cheating on people and needing affirmation from others, I’d dump him for being untrustworthy and disrespectful.

Merryoldgoat · 02/06/2019 13:03

FFS - just leave him.

How can you love someone who treats you so badly?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 02/06/2019 13:03

It's easy for us on the outside to say, of course, and so much more difficult for you. But you know we're right.

That constant unhappiness and suspicion is actually damaging you though, isn't it.

And I don't think an emotional affair is better or worse than physically cheating. Nor do I think either has to end a relationship. But I do think your DP has a mindset to act like this, and that is unlikely to change.

Queenoftheashes · 02/06/2019 13:06

Wtaf, that behaviour is not normal or acceptable! Does he send you nice things or just the ex? I’d seriously get rid. If it’s hard think of him as the charming sociopath - none of the charm is genuine it’s just meant to suck you in and get you feeling like he deserves your time and attention when he clearly doesn’t.

Time40 · 02/06/2019 13:19

Leave. He's a shit and he doesn't respect you.

Sorry, OP. It's a tough situation to be in.

Needsseriousadvice · 02/06/2019 18:33

Thank you - I know you’re all right. Just got to build up the courage to talk to him again!

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FrogFairy · 02/06/2019 18:47

Leave him. Not because you want someone younger but because you deserve someone loyal.

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