to think chavy, tacky hen parties should SOD off [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

[CannoninD]

I’m fed up.
I’ve lived in my beautiful, respectful and historic city my entire life .... but over the last year it’s been invaded by GOD AWFUL hen parties!

20+ strong groups of horrifically common (referring to behaviour not social class) women who inflict their horrific behaviour on everybody within reach.

They’re EVERYWHERE and I know it’s not just me as there are sunbstantial concerns being raised by residents all over the city.

I counted 23 large groups this weekend (I only walked into the (small ish) city centre on Saturday morning and witnessed the following behaviour-

• Loud swearing (F and C word) right in front of/across young families and children just trying to enjoy a day out.
• Shop doors slammed in elderly shoppers faces (too busy pratting around to pay any attention).
• Stock being damaged by pratting about (and then hidden) to avoid paying.
• Horrifically vulgar and inappropriate content being loudly discussed in family areas (a garden/park area) to the point that families got up and left.
• Completely inappropriate Lingerie being worn in the street (before 2pm).
• Vomiting in the street! Whilst being jeered by the rest of the group.

Personally I would rather bleach out my own eyes than go on a hen do like this- but honestly at what point do we just call the police on these ridiculous idiots inflicting such unreasonable behaviour on families and regular people? What’s worse is, I bet back home they’re perfectly normal women. They just all get together and come away from home and behave like total arseholes!

Being in a large group and celebrating an event- does not give you a hall pass to behave like scum. 😡

Some people on this thread are so hung up on class, sometimes bad behaviour is just that irrespective of class. Seemingly it's been with us in this country for centuries. I read somewhere that Dutch monarch William III (of Orange) who ruled jointly with Queen Mary moved out to the relative calm of Hampton Court, because of the "pissing and shitting" in corners by courtiers at whatever palace he was residing in London.

Well, I had a reply from YorkMix and they’re going to approach York Council with the thread.

I hope that’s okay with you, OP. I’ve sent you a pm.

This is so sad. I always think of York as a beautiful city and I remember a day there with my mum when I was about 10. We went on a carriage ride and went to York Minster. So sad there's such a lack of respect for the city.
I have been in coaches of football fans who are better behaved. Pissed yes, singing yes but no lewd behaviour and actually confined to a few streets and pubs near the football ground. Certainly not flashing, shouting and screaming about sex, wearing rude outfits etc.

Well, I had a reply from YorkMix and they’re going to approach York Council with the thread.

Brilliant, I look forward to hearing an update.

My local council is absolutely limp-wristed in all matters related to unsociable behaviour, they'd be enormously sympathetic to errant hens, but maybe York is made of tougher stuff.

I think York City Council have pound signs for eyes.

They know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. As long as the money pours in, they don’t care where it comes from.

All the councils are the same, you have to make it very difficult for them to ignore you.

I'm not sure it's money, exactly, the US has been mentioned several times on this thread. Their local governments are deadly serious about making money and unsurprisingly they manage to make money out of fining ASBO-type behaviour.

They take law and order more seriously, you cannot go to court and claim that you can't pay a $250 fine for vomiting in a city centre - they'll just garnish your wages.

Mention in the UK that someone should be fined for being drunk and disorderly in a hospital, for example, and people wring their hands over how this alienates poor people.

I’ve had another reply from the guy at YorkMix.

He’s going to make the police and the council aware of the thread and get the issue ‘higher on the agenda’.

Fingers crossed!

I find hen parties really odd anyway. The may as well have a neon sign on their heads saying "I don't get out much. I don't understand social norms and I don't actually know or like the people I'm 'partying' with very much so I'm over compensating with drinking myself into a parylitic stupour and behaving like a tosser so other people think I'm having fun".

So York is still good for a mid-week break, but if I want a nice weekend in a historic city with a few sites I should look at Norwich?

Well done Pinkarsedfly YorkMix are always very reactive. I wonder if our MP Rachael Maskell would raise it in Parliament.

Local MP’s is a good call

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook 'fraid so. Midweek it is still fabulous if you avert your eyes from the multitude of boarded up retail premises.

Yes, Norwich is great in that all the pissing and vomiting is mainly confined to the Prince Of Wales Road so hen parties etc are quite easy to avoid. The rest of the city centre itself is actually quite quiet most nights but there are loads of fab pubs. Not quite one for every night of the year any more but close. Loads of lovely historic streets and ancient buildings.

YANBU We used to go to a lovely health spa in Staffordshire, we went for about 20 years. The place has changed beyond all recognition due to hen parties/corporate events... I suppose it brings in business but it’s such I shame, I used to look forward to the peace and quiet so much, it’s in gorgeous surroundings too. The last time we went was about 5 years ago...shouting in the corridors at 1 in the morning and when we went down for early swim in the morning, someone had been sick in the corridor I’m totally with you OP

It's everywhere though.
The Daily mail always show race goers at Aintree / ascot etc drunk with lewd behaviour and students at Cambridge in the summer.
Everything in moderation is a good thing.
I feel for people who live near big cities , it must be hell with these big groups of people.

I agree that it’s all a bit tacky and the swearing, inappropriate conversations (remember these groups usually include mums, aunts and grandmas) in The daytime near kids is cringeworthy. But I also think certain businesses rely on this kind of tourism. And why the emphasis on women? What about the stag nights? Sometimes I wonder if people are still offended by the sight of a group of women having fun

How sad. I get 3 days off in June without the children and was planning to get the Friday evening, Sat, Sun and Monday and Tuesday morning in a lovely historical town as I don't get to travel much at all, (no holiday for years) and I remember people I know in the past raving about York, so thought why not? Plus I love anything old and historic and its relatively easy to get to.

But no way will I go anywhere where I risk coming across hoards of drunken louts swearing their heads off, pissing and shitting in the streets. No way. I have to deal with it occasionally in my job, which is bad enough. I have a chronic illness and need tranquil.

But Norwich does look great on the travel sites I've looked at and I would not have thought of it at all so thanks to the poster for the suggestion.

Hopefully now this thread has been shown to the relevant authorities, York will soon be a go to weekend destination again. I do still really want to go but I'll have to take a shorter mid-week break maybe September as was recommended.

Personally I’m glad @pink has taken it upon herself to contact YorkMix

It’s a serious problem that I hope will be improved - hopefully having a light shone on it will make a difference for families and residents!

Residents and families in York could do with coming together on this

We live near, arguably, England’s number 1 hen hotspot. Not a trophy I’m keen to polish but there ya go.
Watching the brides trip, fall and vomit their ways along the promenade from about midday most summer Saturdays, accompanied by a gaggle of shrieking, catcalling worse for wear women usually way old enough to know way better with assorted inflatable penises and no entry slogans across their backsides, I frequently wonder, just who on earth would want to marry her?
The men don’t seem to be as loud or aggressive but are massive twats nonetheless. Best one ever was man in full body penis costume, complete with pubic hair fringe around his feet, running to beat the crossing lights and falling flat on his face at the kerb. about 2pm, completely on his own. Hope he felt a right dick () as he struggled to get up. No one helped, just laughed at him. Good.

Serious note: the time and money these groups of louts take up, dominating the emergency services every Friday and Saturday night, should be fully chargeable. Maybe they’ll think twice if it’s going to cost them a great deal of money.

@AdobeWanKenobe I hope you have a lovely time, it really is a fabulous place.

Re stag dos, I’ve heard of a couple of ones which are based more around physical activities e.g zipwiring in Snowdonia. Bit harder to do while plastered and wearing fake boobs I suppose.

Yes, Norwich is great in that all the pissing and vomiting is mainly confined to the Prince Of Wales Road so hen parties etc are quite easy to avoid. The rest of the city centre itself is actually quite quiet most nights but there are loads of fab pubs. Not quite one for every night of the year any more but close. Loads of lovely historic streets and ancient buildings

Yes, yes! I saw the Cathedral, the castle, a lovely riverside walk and a very lovely looking place called Elm Hill? Buildings look very old. I'm starting to get very excited!

Residents and families in York could do with coming together on this

@Greenglassteacup forgive me but I’m interested in why you keep posting something along these lines in a slightly passive aggressive way towards the OP as if she and others complaining should be doing a lot more? Your post is directly below one where the OP says she’s v glad pinkarsedfly took the initiative and contacted YorkMix and how she hopes “having a light shone in this will make a difference for families and residents”. Is that not a form of families and residents “coming together on this” that you speak of?

What?

I have family in York, I’m interested in change, as are they. Don’t accuse me of being aggressive please