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AIBU re Office Car Park Wars

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NaughtyAmeliaJaneridesagain · 28/05/2019 20:16

I work at an office with limited car parking. There are several branches of my organisation, many without car parks. The person allocating spaces to staff favours her friends. Additionally, higher management insist they must have a space every day. Parking locally can be difficult and is expensive. Staff constantly moan about current set up. Do you have a system of allocating spaces for staff whose work patterns range from 2 days pw to full time, including many term time workers, with circa 100 staff and 35 spaces, and about 10 managers? How do you deal with this issue at your workplace? Staff getting more and more irate, has been raised numerous times over years and nothing changes. I feel I need to present a solid plan or am gonna go nuts. Just heard council plans to develop nearby car park next year and things are going to get nasty. WWYD ? AIBU to try to get this changed? If so how ??! Previously managers said they would give up spaces if they ALL agreed to. Needless to say a manager refused to do so, so none did ! Practical suggestions welcomed 😀

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cdtaylornats · 28/05/2019 21:30

If you were in Scotland you would be looking at £500 per year charge for having the temerity to have a parking space at work.

Whackaguacamole · 28/05/2019 21:33

Car share spaces
Flexible worker spaces only available after a certain time.
Other spaces/ car parks first come first served.
Free park and ride passes, cycle to work scheme, season ticket schemes etc to encourage public transport
If you can't do any of that then you'd have to pay somewhere public

lljkk · 28/05/2019 21:37

Limited spaces next to office building: most are allocated to the team who haul the most paperwork (they have tow-cases like pic). I don't know what they pay. They have a spreadsheet allocating who gets their spaces on which days, which I think depends who is hauling those big bags to meetings & back again.

Rest of us get lots of spaces 8-10 minute walk from office, £20/month flat charge. It sounds like £1 day, but only if you actually drive daily. I usually cycle after taking bike on train. There is no cheaper alternative parking. I tend to pay £20 for a once a month parking.

AIBU re Office Car Park Wars
SerenDippitty · 28/05/2019 21:43

My former employer charged for car parking, £10-£30 a month depending on salary which included a free pass to a nearby multi storey if you couldn’t get in on site. For most people much cheaper than public transport so not much of an incentive not to drive.

NicoAndTheNiners · 28/05/2019 21:44

I used to work somewhere where I was only allowed a parking permit 8x a month. Even then it wasn't guaranteed. You could only apply for the permit 7 days in adavance, youd only be allocated the permit if all the permits for that day hadn't been allocated already. Having a permit didn't guarantee a space, it was still first come first served but you did generally get one.

Caplin · 28/05/2019 21:46

Those people who car shared got places. They lost it if they were spotted arriving alone more than once a week.

Those with mobility issues got priority.

Everyone else went into a draw for a week and a few spots were held for ‘special circumstances’ e.g. needing to stack up the car for an event.

From 2pm each day it was open season to help shift workers on late shifts.

SerenDippitty · 28/05/2019 21:50

Priority for car sharers has been mentioned - does/should this include people/couples who live in the same house?

Lazypuppy · 28/05/2019 21:51

Ours is first come first served, car park opens at 6:30am and is normally full by 8:30.

I just make sure i'm in by then, if not i have to go over and park in the residential bit behind our offices and walk in

londonrach · 28/05/2019 21:52

Ours based on those working in clinic as you cant leave a patient ro move tour car. Great for me apart from training days,, not so good for admin

Moreisnnogedag · 28/05/2019 21:54

Our permits are based on distance from work. You’re not entitled to one at all if you live within two miles. Then there are two additional car parks - one a fair walk away if you live within a certain distance but there is another one if you’re start time is after 930

lastqueenofscotland · 28/05/2019 21:55

Where I work they just charge you through the nose for it to put you off it’s minutes from s huge train and bus station so no real need to drive

BrokenWing · 28/05/2019 21:57

First come first served regardless of status in ours, late starters know they have no chance of a space and need to street park (probably around 20 cars).

Carpark is mostly full well before 8:30am as a large number a people choose to start early/leave early to miss peak traffic.

Iamthewombat · 28/05/2019 22:14

Firstly OP, I have to congratulate you on the thread title. It’s got everything. Parking, conflict, drama, the lot. I have really enjoyed reading it, especially the anecdotes about people’s arsey parking behaviour.

I’m a contractor and I work all over, so if parking were longevity-based anywhere I’ve worked, I’d be right at the bottom of the pile.

I only drive where there is no reasonable public transport alternative. Usually on the godforsaken business parks that councils keep giving permission for. Why?

On these business parks, the councils have usually decided that there should be insufficient parking in order to encourage use of the non-existent public transport or car sharing. Which isn’t much help when you don’t live anywhere near colleagues.

Anyway, I digress. It’s usually first come first served where I’ve worked. It’s useful for your employer, isn’t it? Everyone who can come in early, does so in order to get a parking space. Although I have seen people sitting in their cars for 40 minutes before entering the office in order to save their spaces. Barmy. It’s no fun for people who have to drop kids off and can’t arrive 40 minutes early.

The directors always made sure they got their own spaces, though. They were convinced that they would be taxed on an allocated space (not Scotland), despite being assured otherwise by finance professionals (me) so they earmarked unmarked spaces and kicked off when anybody unaware of the secret parking code parked in one of them.

In one place, they had marked spaces in between rows of cars, blocking in those cars. The people parking in the in- between spaces, perpendicular to the rows of cars, were supposed to be out of them by 5 pm in order not to block others in. Unsurprisingly, the occupiers didn’t always bother vacating their spaces promptly, leaving colleagues who had to go to collect children etc. having to wander around the building asking who was in the black Fiesta etc etc., while the nursery late fees racked up.

I once worked somewhere (public sector) where they had a complex rota: people with mobility problems always got a space, everyone else got a go for some days depending on working pattern. Sounds ok but sorting it out took 50% of somebody’s time: not just doing the rota but fending off complaints and moans and reallocating spaces when people were out of the office. Not many employers would be keen on that!

The answer, of course, is for businesses to set up in places properly served by public transport: town and city centres. No hope of that when inaccessible except by car out of town space is cheap, though. I assume they think that the employees can just fly in on their magic carpets.

EileenAlanna · 28/05/2019 23:20

Could you promote car sharing? A fixed number of spaces for car-pooling perhaps, linked to some additional incentive employees would get if they sign up for it?

HollaHolla · 28/05/2019 23:29

We pay according to car emissions. Even with that, you’re not guaranteed a space, even with a permit.
The pecking order is - mobility/disability, distance travelled (and public transport availability), caring needs (nursery/parents/elderly relatives), then free for all.

AuditAngel · 29/05/2019 05:52

Where I work more senior staff have their own allocated space (including me) then the remainder used to be on a rota.

I now belong to a different, central team but still have my own space. In some areas of the car park blocking in is allowed, but not where I am.

I currently travel a fair bit, so always ensure reception know if I am coming in and they will protect my space, but can tell others to use it when i’m not going to be in.

This week I will not be in the office at all, last week I was on holiday and the week before that I was in for 1 day,

Veterinari · 29/05/2019 06:52

Based on need including antisocial hours, dependents, distance from work, ability to carshare and access to public transport
Also employer works with local bus companies to ensure good public transport and cycle links

It’s pretty fair and most people are happy with it

fairweathercyclist · 29/05/2019 07:41

If I were in charge of this I would give spaces to blue badge holders.

Then I would say that anyone who lives within a x mile radius does not get a space (they can walk/cycle depending on whether the office is accessible or out on a business park somewhere with no pavements to get to it or no street lights in winter). Out of everyone else, I'd give spaces to the lowest earners (pro rata so all the spaces don't go to those working PT) with the view that those who earn more can afford the car park.

You might also want to consider job role - ie if you have people who work anti-social hours they should get a space too but they may not have a problem anyway if they are around when most people are not.

Finally, have a sensible flexible/remote working policy and encourage people to work from home as much as possible to free up more spaces.

DramaRamaLlama · 29/05/2019 09:02

The trouble with doing it based on emissions etc is it benefits the better off.

I have a parking space at work and it's important to me as it allows me to manage dropping DC off. I also get paid enough that if it was decided that only electric cars could have a space I'd buy and electric car.

NaughtyAmeliaJaneridesagain · 29/05/2019 15:03

@Iamthewombat* I once worked somewhere (public sector) where they had a complex rota: people with mobility problems always got a space, everyone else got a go for some days depending on working pattern. Sounds ok but sorting it out took 50% of somebody’s time: not just doing the rota but fending off complaints and moans and reallocating spaces when people were out of the office.** This is our problem. Also public sector employer so no funds available to sort. Glad I am able to get in early to grab the very limited free street parking within 15 Min walk 😀 guess I was looking for a miracle cure !! Car sharing and first come first serve will not go down well/work here, nor will seniority first, will just add to resentment. Blue badge holders already get spaces daily, which is not an issue.

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lljkk · 29/05/2019 21:06

Most people just want routine. A revolving day or lottery sounds ugh.

I only want a space if I'm running another errand or there's bad weather. Lottery etc. wouldn't help. On distance reasons I'd qualify over most others, actually, but still would only want a space on bad weather days/when I had an errand to run.

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