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May has 2 weeks to revoke Article 50 and limit the damage Boris will cause

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Unfinishedkitchen · 25/05/2019 07:10

As a Londoner I saw first hand how useless, lazy and awful Boris was. I was dismayed that after his failure as mayor of London, he managed to become the Foreign Secretary where he insulted others and almost got that poor woman’s sentence increased in Iran.

He’s now baying for a no deal Brexit.

This man is dangerous (with an awesome PR team) and his damage must be limited.

AIBU to think TM should revoke A50? She has 2 weeks left and nothing to lose.

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Dongdingdong · 25/05/2019 08:46

Is it fair to say that Gina Miller, although well-intentioned, actually made this shitstorm a whole lot worse?

HarryElephante · 25/05/2019 08:47

Absolutely. But isn’t the concerning point that Corbyn supports and venerates said corrupt politicians

There are many concerning points regarding Corbyn. And as a Labour voter, I find that so depressing.

badlydrawnperson · 25/05/2019 09:06

Is it fair to say that Gina Miller, although well-intentioned, actually made this shitstorm a whole lot worse?

Hard to tell/say really. Unfortunately one’s interpretation tends to be determined by which side of the highly decisive fence one sits regarding the outcome. If she ultimately succeeds in preventing Brexit she will no doubt be a hero to many especially on MN, even if she has made it harder for May to revoke.

Unfinishedkitchen · 25/05/2019 09:26

Can we stop turning this into a Corbyn thread. He’s not getting in so it’s pointless talking about what his cabinet plan to do. He’s irrelevant.

May is currently hated by both sides of the Brexit debate. If she puts a vote to parliament to revoke, she may win and if she does, 50% of the country will be happy which is better than the current 0%. She can fuck over Corbyn and the loony free market capitalist on steroids wing of her own party in one fell swoop before she swans off on her lucrative after dinner speaking tour.

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HarryElephante · 25/05/2019 09:43

Can we stop turning this into a Corbyn thread. He’s not getting in so it’s pointless talking about what his cabinet plan to do. He’s irrelevant

Tories can't help themselves.

Unfinishedkitchen · 25/05/2019 09:50

Also why do people makes statements such as ‘I work in the city’? It gives them no more authority in the debate than anyone else.

The financial sector employs tens of thousands of people. Most of them will be junior, don’t work directly in finance or make any strategic decisions e.g. back office, catering, admin etc. Most people working for a bank aren’t bankers, don’t have specialist sector knowledge or have any seniority at all.

I once had a guy try to chat me up in a bar in Liverpool st. He claimed he was a banker. Turned out from one of his friends that he did work for a large bank...in the post room.

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SinkGirl · 25/05/2019 11:01

Oh, so it was Labour who called an early GE with a manifesto that wasn’t costed, and then pulled major u-turns on the policies that would have paid for things? I must be remembering it wrong 🙄

This government are still borrowing money. Just because you’re not seeing any of it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Austerity is a load of bollocks, and Brexit was never going to work.

FinallyHere · 25/05/2019 11:21

I have not yet read the Matthew Paris article , thank you for posting @JuneFromBethesda , but had found myself daydreaming that Boris might actually grasp that there isn't really a way forward and be prepared to bluster through a position of revoke while we work out the way forward.

There isn't much else to hope for.

Lizzie48 · 25/05/2019 11:42

TM won’t revoke Brexit. Nice daydream but it isn’t going to happen.

What will happen is that Boris Johnson won’t get a new deal from the EU (they’ve said time and again that this won’t happen), so it will be a case of No Deal or No Brexit.

The Tory Brexiteers and the DUP don’t like the backstop for the Northern Ireland border with the Republic, but they have no alternative to offer because there isn’t one, and there isn’t one on offer anyway. A hard border would break the Good Friday Agreement.

So what can Boris Johnson or any other new leader achieve??

The only answer is a new referendum or an immediate revocation of Article 50. Which isn’t going against democracy; Brexit has turned out to be unworkable and a disaster in the making, so it’s the right thing to do to back out.

fedup21 · 25/05/2019 11:46

That would be the best legacy May could leave us!

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