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Job difficulties - management potentially favouring colleague AIBU

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HillarytheGuineaPig · 24/05/2019 23:57

AIBU to find this frustrating?

Name-changed for this.

Long story but I’ll try to keep it as short as possible.

I work in the Civil Service and have been in my role (fairly junior role) for just over a year. I work in a small and very close-knit team and most of us get on really well inside and outside of work.

However, one of my colleagues has been a bit harder to get on with. He started a couple of months after I did, and seemed very friendly and easygoing at first.

After some time, he then started to behave aggressively and would react disproportionately when in stressful situations.

Our job is pretty stressful and intense, and he wouldn’t manage the stress well - he would often swear under his breath or say things like, ‘oh this is quite a job, isn’t it!!’ to different team members in a sarcastic way to show his frustration.

He has also frequently refused to help colleagues in the team with their work even though we all pitch in and help each other daily, and are expected to do so. In short, he wasn’t behaving like a team player.

He was aggressive and rude to me on different occasions. (When it was just me, him and a manager in the office on the same shift working to a strict deadline, he left abruptly after shouting that he couldn’t handle the stress of the job, and he also told me, ‘I’m not even going to listen to what you’re saying’ when I asked him about a piece of work he was doing that I was asked by management as part of a team task to follow up).

I told my line manager about this and they have a written record of different occasions. He’s also been aggressive to his line managers and other colleagues in the team, and is constantly late for his job, even though we have regular warnings about punctuality and how important it is from our managers.

The latest development in this is that he is leaving our team for a role in a similar team in our department.

Management in our area of the department have a rule where they don’t allow people in our team to accept new jobs at their grade (to move jobs on a level transfer, I think it’s called) unless they’ve worked in our team for a certain amount of time.

However, this colleague has been given this new role in that other team at his current grade even though he hasn’t been in his current role for long enough to meet management’s rule (this is his first role in the CS).

I find this pretty hypocritical and frustrating. It suggests that they’re ‘rewarding’ him, in a way, even though he’s behaved quite badly and unprofessionally.

I’ve asked to apply for a temporary promotion to another team in my department. I really like the look of the role, it would give me more responsibility and the other team have encouraged me to apply.

There are no rules or policies set by management to prevent us from applying for temporary promotions, but I’m not allowed to apply by management in my current team because they need all hands on deck.

They say I can’t apply because of ‘business need’. I think this is unfair and double standards, especially given that my colleague has been allowed a level transfer from my team to that other team. Also, another colleague who’s been in my team for a few months has also had a level transfer approved to another team.

One of my other colleagues was also interested in a temporary promotion opportunity but was also prevented from applying by management.

I’m looking into applying for permanent roles on promotion but have found it challenging to fully demonstrate my ability in the applications I’ve done so far, and really felt a temporary promotion would be a helpful way of developing my skills and interests and giving me examples that I could use for future applications.

WWYD? Should I just put my head down and focus on applying for permanent promotion opportunities or should I see if there’s any way management will let me apply for that temporary promotion?

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SuntanC · 25/05/2019 00:02

@Hillary are you a member of a union? I also work for CS and am pretty sure they cannot stop you going for promotion, only level transfer in certain situations. Talk to your rep or seek advice from HR as I do not think you can be prevented from going for promotion.

HillarytheGuineaPig · 25/05/2019 00:07

Hi Suntan, thanks for your reply :) yes I am a member of a union. I didn’t think about approaching them about this - that’s a really good idea, thank you! Would you suggest I contacted my union workplace rep about this, to start with?

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HillarytheGuineaPig · 25/05/2019 00:12

Bumping :)

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HillarytheGuineaPig · 25/05/2019 00:20

Does anyone have further advice please?

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HillarytheGuineaPig · 25/05/2019 09:29

Bump :)

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HillarytheGuineaPig · 25/05/2019 13:02

Would anyone have further advice, please?

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WaitedForGodot · 25/05/2019 13:12

They're glad to see the back of him and have jumped at the chance to transfer him away. It's not a reward, it's a 'thank fuck, he's someone else's problem now'.

It seems like a separate issue, but also unsurprising that they'd want to block someone reasonably competent transferring out after just a year, and also relatively unsurprising that you might not be ready for promotion after so short a time. Idk about the blocking of the temporary promotion but it doesn't seem like something worth upsetting the applecart over.

I'd have a discussion with your manager focusing on your desire to progress within the civil service, and ask what the best things are that you can do to demonstrate your readiness for the next step up.

ChariotsofFish · 25/05/2019 13:12

He’s a difficult employee and his current team leader has jumped at the chance to move him to another team so they don’t have to deal with him through capability procedures. I wouldn’t compare your situation to his.

ChicCroissant · 25/05/2019 13:22

I didn't see your colleagues move as a reward either, just a way of management not having to deal with the problems he is causing!

However, I can see that would leave your team short which may have affected their willingness to let you go for the promotion. Not your problem, they should have tackled the issues at work earlier - speak to your Union as they may have experienced this issue before and have an effective way of helping.

Otherwise speak to your managers and point out that you are the only team member not allowed to move on - why is that? Do you meet the time criteria yourself OP?

Hopoindown31 · 25/05/2019 13:32

Definitely not a reward. They have moved him becuase he was not getting on with the team and his manager. If he does it again in his new team then he'll be put either on disciplinary or capability. This way they can rule out a clash of personalities as a mitigating circumstance.

Hopoindown31 · 25/05/2019 13:35

Also please speak to your line manager and let them know how very disappointed you are to have been prevented from going for promotion and that you would like to review your development plan with them as a result of this. A good manager should be able to spot a member of staff who is in danger of leaving and at least try their best to put something in place to assuage you.

Hecateh · 25/05/2019 13:48

They want rid but difficult to sack him so have moved him on to another team. Maybe less stressful, more likely to prove that he isn't competent and cannot cope with the job.

If he also struggles in the new team then there is more evidence to suggest he would be better employed elsewhere.

Or he may keep getting moved until he gets fed up and gets out.

ArnoldBee · 25/05/2019 13:55

He probably had a occupational health referral and a stress risk assessment to facilitate his move. As this is confidential your line manager would not have discussed this with you.

ArnoldBee · 25/05/2019 13:58

And yes if it's only a TDA position this can be barred for business reasons though it is unlikely that you wouldn't be released for a permanent position.

CSIblonde · 25/05/2019 14:00

It's not a reward, it's tactical promotion to get rid of a problem employee. Which is massively common. Be relieved.

SuntanC · 25/05/2019 16:25

Sorry I missed your followup question @Hillary- definitely talk to your union rep. You cannot be treated any differently from anyone else in your organisation. Also I agree with everyone saying they moved your colleague away as he was at the very least a total pest. Unfortunately this happens a LOT, rather than actually dealing with the problem. Best of luck! Xx

MaxNormal · 25/05/2019 16:31

I would be very grateful that I no longer have to work with him.

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