Whorlton Hall abuse

[cansu]

I have looked on many sections and cannot find any threads on this. Surely I can't be the only person to be heartbroken at watching the violence and abuse of vulnerable people with autism and disabilities? Where is the outrage from others on here? I can't even find anything on Matt Hancock's twitter or website with a response to what is a terrible verdict on the NHS commissioners, clinicians, management and the regulator.

I have seen people employed as carers who I would not trust to look after my pets. Most places are desperate for carers, because it is low paid and hard work, if done properly.

Please sign the petition started by the NAS if you have not done so already we need to make a stand disabled people matter!

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"Why parents should fear childcare going the way of Carillion"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/14/parents-carillion-childcare-collapse-nursery-provider
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HelenaDove Wed 16-May-18 14:36:45

"What’s happened in the older care market should provide a cautionary tale. There has been a similar shift from the public to the private sector, and private equity has become an increasingly important player. Private equity funds have bought up large chains of care homes, and loaded them up with unsustainable debt. This led to the collapse of Southern Cross back in 2011, and more recently left Four Seasons on the brink of breakdown.

We haven’t yet seen the collapse of a major nursery provider here. Other countries have. In Australia, ABC Learning – then one of the world’s largest private childcare providers – went into liquidation back in 2008 as a result of burdening itself with debt while chasing aggressive expansion. It was simply too big to fail: the Australian government had to provide a bailout of millions to keep the nurseries running until new buyers took over.

Many of the big nursery chains operating here in the UK have ambitious expansion plans, which involve buying out and refinancing smaller nurseries. For example, Busy Bees has been involved in takeover and consolidation bids in Australia, Singapore and the Netherlands. It is also trying to attract Chinese investors and is launching a chain of nurseries in China"

Even the NAS have been at it.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/08/autism-charity-accused-hiding-horrific-abuse-care-home/

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/08/autism-charity-accused-hiding-horrific-abuse-care-home/

Try again

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/08/autism-charity-accused-hiding-horrific-abuse-care

I give up.

Google Mendip House Somerset abuse.

A home run by the NAS.

It's all just so horrific & really hard to fathom how anyone can behave like that to the most vulnerable in our society.

Is any country doing this properly? Where can we learn from? It appears to me that it's such a complex issue with no one correct answer that whatever alternative we could come up with would also be open to abuse potentially.

@CoolBee

I honestly question the motivation of those men working with vulnerable females. The graphic sexualised conversation made my blood run cold and I honestly wouldn't be at all surprised if some degree of sexual abuse also occurred.

Hi. So I work in a similar place as a charge nurse, hospital for those with autism, learning disabilities, mental health problems and severe challenging behaviours. I watched the show and it was heartbreaking. However, please dont tar us all with the same brush. I can guarantee that nothing like this happens where I work, we have an amazing reputation. I have worked as a nurse for 12 years and have reported things too many times, all of which were acted on and staff were let go. Concerns are not brushed under the carpet and are acted on.

I understand why people want these types of institutions closed down, however the patient group we have would not be managed in the community, hence why they come to us. The level of aggression and assaults are too significant to be managed in supported living, it's been tried and usually they come from community placements that have broken down because of the level of aggression. We have a great rep for treating them and then discharging them to very successful community placements.

The BBC were There for 2 months, left in March but didn't let cygnet know until may, so they knowingly witnessed abuse for 2 months and then left them open to further abuse for another 2 months, just to make good TV? How is this any better? It could have been stopped sooner and the BBC should be held a little responsible, as abuse isnt just doing the act, its witnessing it and not doing anything about it.

What has been uncovered is truely shocking, but doesn't happen everywhere, and there are some fantastic careers out there who are just as sickened that this has happened.

@cansu
At my unit, we encourage unannounced visits by families, and will see their ds' in the dining room in their bedrooms in the garden, around other patients. Not all places have things to hide, I'm sorry you have a bad experience of it all x

That's so good to hear @bethankfulforwhatyouhave

That is good to hear about the visits but I think your unit Be thankfulforwhatyouhave might be quite unusual. I have spoken to many parents who have told me they were not allowed on the ward.

@cansu we are a danshell/cygnet unit. I hope things get better for you, and for all of those on this thread that have bad experiences, but please please assured, we are not all bad. I pride myself in the quality of our care we provide, it's a shame that not all units are the same and that this sort of thing happens even now xx

Thanks, I am relieved to hear you offer good care. There are many people on my son's ward who seem to be good people. There are also some who seem very inexperienced and in all honesty I would not employ them to babysit my cat. These positions are demanding and need a lot of professionalism. They should in my view be better paid but also need to be subject to undercover inspection to ensure that the care is safe.I also have seen many patients who could be cared for in the community. My son has been in hospital for over six months. In reality he needed care in hospital for about six weeks. He is now bored and unstimulated, is not receiving any treatment and is only taken out once a week due to staffing issues. I am counting the days until I can get him back in the community.

We live nearby to it and know a few people involved in.. emotions are very high here. It’s absolutely heartbreaking

Op I saw it mentioned but can't read into stuff like this any more.

These are the most vulnerable people in our society.
Along with those with dementia etc. . babies, small child. People who cannot say what's happening, may not understand what's happening.

When do we as a society say enough?

Cameras everywhere?
Constant monitoring?

Child care homes... biggest pick up joint for peado abuses..

When do we say. Enough. ...

Big sentences for abusers of the most vulnerable.

Cameras, transparency... reviews of institutions and a body that actually has teeth and purpose too look into abuses claims.

Enough. Enough. Enough.

Cansu.

We need constant threat of undercover inspectors....

Constant family popping in un announced.....

Humans are nasty creatures.

Face it. Many cannot be trusted near vulnerable people.

Put measures in place.

@peabodburgundy, some of what you say is accurate, in that yes there are some very good staff that work for danshell/cygnet, these few will forever go unrecognised due to the animalistic behaviours of the staff shown on the panorama footage. Yes some residents/service users are well looked after and all care needs/and more met. Again people will forget about that when they see the appalling treatment of Alex.
In this instance what people really need to kmow is that all management and most of the nurses within Whorlton hall at that time were aware of the abuse going on, even actively encouraging it. Though it doesn't stop there, the entire multi disciplinary team also knew as did various service managers, hr, governance, regional manager and yes the CEO.
This was not a single isolated culture but is rife throughout Danshell, known about but kept quiet.

Just watched and utterly utterly discusted beyond belief. I just can't understand how so many vile people worked. Not one carer stood up to it, they all went along with it, laughing and going along with it. As a carer I'm appalled.