To think Love Island should be scrapped

[ThinThighsPlease]

Following the JK incident and the reality TV issue finally being looked into I really hope LI is next to go. I admit I'm not a fan of reality television at all and I strongly disagree with people finding fame through it and receiving opportunities (presenting jobs for example) way ahead of people who are putting themselves through university.

Almost everyone I work with was talking about LI last year and there were so many articles on it that I caved in and thought okay I'll give it a go... I lasted a few episodes. I honestly thought it was awful. You have people treating each other like absolute shit, judging one another based only on looks, humiliating each other, hurting each other, dumping each other and being encouraged to have sex on national TV. One guy spent a few days all over some young girl and promising she could trust him (Georgia?) only to disappear and return a few days later holding hands with another woman?! Is it really so entertaining to watch people being publicly kicked in the teeth?

I understand you are probably a thick skinned and narcissistic person to put yourself in that environment in the first place, I understand they are looking for fame not real love. But I think it's utter trash and gives out a horrible message to teenagers watching it.

Yes I know I don't have to watch it and I have a remote control but it's Sunday evening and I just fancied a rant.

Tell you what should be axed on the same basis as Jezza though. That auditions bit in the X Factor.

@AlwaysCheddar fb are a bit behind.

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/19/jeremy-kyle-more-tv-show-guests-killed-themselves-it-emerges

@singlepringle yes I guess you could call 70% of TV programmes reality shows these days but at least cooking programmes and gameshows have a purpose. The ones I can't stand are these vile, self obsessed twats like Gemma Collins and those ridiculous blonde sisters having cameras follow them around to film their shallow lives. Who gives a fuck?!

I don't think they need to ban it. They do need to review who they allow on the show, how they prepare contestants for fame, and the level of support they offer after the show

Absolutely.

Adding in more diversity in terms of looks and body type wouldn’t hurt either.

I saw a similar thing on Facebook but it was about the DWP, not the army.

here is some idea of the money involved.

tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/love-island/392024-ubereats-to-replace-superdrug-as-new-sponsor-for-love-island-2019.html

The 2 suicides regarding love island were rumoured not to even be a result of the show. Sophie’s was published as suicide but her best friend spoke out and said there’s more to this they didn’t believe it was suicide and there was something strange going on in there relationship. Mikes bestfriend said Mike has been struggling with the death of his gran.

You just never really know someone’s reasons.

Tbh mrsfox there were probably other reasons involved in the suicides of the three people who were on the Jeremy Kyle show. If you think there wasn't you're misunderstanding the complexity of mental illness massively. You don't take such a desparate act either lightly or indeed over one thing. Indeed going by your logic that sophie and mike's friends said that it wasn't to do with the show, then so did steve dymonds estranged wife, and step child indeed so did steve dymond himself say it was nithing to do with the JK show in his suicide note. So what do you say to that????!! (Steve Dymond is the person whos suicide lead to the axing of the JK show)

Other friends of mikes paritcally have spoken out very clearly about how there was a massive lack of of after care and it did contribute to his death.

I totally agree op and ive had several conversations this week, it took one public suicide in 14 years to take JK off air, love island has had 2 in a few months yet it remains.

And i'm not in any way defending the JK show, his treatenent of people who fail a fairly questionably polygraph test and in particalar the way he would abuse and get in the faces of people suffering from addictions were shite.

But if your going to rightly take a stand agaibst bullies and take a show that causes suicides off air then you should do it for another show that relies on bullying and causes suicides too especially when they are formats owned by the same network. Else your whole network looks hypocrital.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions

I didn’t say it was to be taken lightly, neither did I “misunderstand the complexity of mental illness” and I didn’t say the Jeremy Kyle guest didn’t have other reasons either. I was saying what I had read about love island. I have absolutely no idea why you called me out and made such bizarre accusations

@ThinThighsPlease..........i was born in 73 and growing up reality TV was unheard of...........i think the first subtle seeds of it were sown in the 90s with programmes like Driving School, Airport and The Cruise.

Bcause mrsfox you said this the 2 suicides regarding love island were rumoured not to even be a result of the show i was pointing out that steve dymonds wife and step son have said that the JK show had nothing to do with his death either. By your logic then that implies that the JK show shouldnt have been cancelled.

By my comment about mental illness if you think sophies death is soley down to her rekationship (i'm going to brush over the actually bizaree aligation about her partner) or mikes was solely to do with his grandmothers death then no you don't understand the complexities of mental illness waa that actally mike and sophies friends have actually said that love island was a contributry factors to their death as did steve dymonds son say about the JK show. The reality is there was probably a combitation of factors for all three (and the other 2 deaths connected to the JK show)

I'm not sure what you think i'm making alligations against you - unlike you who is very cleally making alligations against sophies partner

I’m honestly not sure why you are attacking me and making allegations against me. I have said these were the issues rumoured and reported by their closest friends. Not once did I state this was factual information. Nor did I make up allegations against her boyfriend. I didn’t state anyone’s death was solely down to one incident or issue infact I said you never really know what someone is thinking or going through. I’m absolutely baffled you think my comment means I don’t understand mental illness. It makes zero sense

Please take your anger issues out on someone else.

Something's got to entertain the dregs of society, we can't ban it all! 😂

Fame is a horrible poisonous force, my ex shot to fame and it hugely exacerbated his mental health issues, until you are publically picked apart by thousands of people you really have no idea what it’s like.

Everyone treats you differently, everyone, everything you do is criticised by someone, you can’t use things like social media (which now is hard to avoid), even you’re family become targets for trolls, I remember some of his songs coming on on the radio at work and colleagues thinking it was acceptable to make really disgusting gay jokes about us, which I couldn’t talk about at home as he was going through enough crap. But you’re expected to be this perfect role model at all times, and when that eventually fails you’re public enemy number 1.

If someone is on a reality show, in a band etc, I think their management has a duty of care to provide good after care to support peoples mental health through a very tough time.

A really shocking moment for me was Nicki Graham on big brother, a girl with anorexia and severe mental health issues, she should never have been allowed on that show as it was clearly detrimental to her health.

I think that these type of "reality" TV shows aren't so different from the Roman colosseum.

Baiting people into humiliating situations for public titillation. Without adequate psychological support or indeed assessment beforehand. I know they say there is, but clearly these people are vulnerable and thrust into the public eye, without any kind of support or help.

I haven't watched either but have obviously read about the people on these shows, and the negative impact on their MH.

It's shameful really.

Wow mrsfox i'm not sure forums are for you
Theres no anger from me nor am i attacking you. I'm taking things that you've said and disagreeing with them or making a different point....its called having a discussion

If any ones attacking any one its you attacking me

I loved LI last year but I’m not sure I will be comfortable watching it this year. The reason why I’m imagining they are not cancelling is that the show costs £££££ to produce compared to JK and also had better ratings and more lucrative sponsorship deals.

I hate the whole JK bear baiting and scoffing at the socially and intellectually disadvantaged.

But what I found most disturbing about reality TV today is what young women (in particular) are doing to themselves and it's considered attractive 😱

These (usually young) women are becoming role models for our children and teens and normalising extreme aesthetics and plastic surgery.

I find Love Island really fascinating, uplifting and entertaining. It is so interesting watching the relationships develop and seeing the dynamics change as different people interact. It is a reflection of real life and on the whole the contestants have a blast. It is a Summer of fun for them, and for us, the viewers. I definitely don’t think it should be banned. The participants are not naive to the levels of fame they will attain when they come out, for most of them that is their motivation for taking part. It is an opportunity for young people who want some kind of career exposure in many ways. I think the government should be concentrating on tackling many many other issues in youth culture like knife crime rather than waste resources reviewing reality TV.

I don't mind Love Island but can we have a non surgically enhanced one this year please!

No, most people don't like Jeremy Kyle on here so agreed that it should be scrapped. Partly because of manipulating people and affecting their mental health.
Clearly, as they enjoy the premise of Love Island and like the show, the concerns about mental health and manipulation don't matter.
Being totally unprepared for what being on a programme like this brings (biased editing, cruelty on social media, press intrusion etc) doesn't matter if it's a show people like.
Yes I think it should be scrapped

I agree it should be scrapped, given the impact it has had on two people who have since taken their own life.

I wonder how many that are shouting for reality tv to be banned watch Strictly Come Dancing? That’s reality and has caused marriage breakdowns or is that a ‘naice’ little BBC show?

I think that these types of reality programmes aren't so different from the roman colosseum

Love this xx