....to gather up the bones?

[marvik]

Spin-off from another thread.

I buy whole free range chickens which I either roast and carve - or joint for casseroles. When the meal is over I've always gathered up the bones from people's plates to add to the carcass which is then boiled up for stock. The stock is used for soup or risotto.

Was baffled to learn - on another thread - that many people feel this is 'rank', 'disgusting' etc.

I think it's about good cooking and good household economy.

(In the old days the cat used to get the left over boiled chicken from the stock pot too..)

Your thoughts please?

I negate the germ issue by adding a capful of Zoflora to my family's pre-chewed bones

I use all the bones. If boiling them for 2 hours doesn’t kill the germs I don’t know what would. If that makes you squeamish, how do you cope eating a chicken at all? If was a living, shitting creature probably living in a barn covered in chicken shit. But that’s OK, because cooking it kills the germs...

You eat chicken drumsticks with a knife & fork 🤣

Oh god that is so grim 🤢

We do this. Totally normal. It’s making me laugh reading that people feel their own family’s saliva and fingers are so toxic that boiling for 3 hours won’t rid them of the fearful “germs”!!!! What a world we live in nowadays.

I’d think this was fine, but on the other hand I don’t boil wash my bedding or use separate laundry baskets for clean and dirty washing, so by mumsnet standards I’m disgusting

Am now contemplating making a lovely Dettol risotto...

Bones from the carcass, fine. I do that. Bones from people's plates? Sorry, but that makes me feel ill. It's grim. The leftovers from plates go to the dogs so there is no waste.

Another MN thread where I'm baffled by what people think is "disgusting", "vile" etc. Reading it like wtf!

DP makes lovely, healthy stock from any and all bones we use. Daft not to IMO.

You take bones from people plates to make stock? Why? That is pretty grim. There’s just no need for that.

Oh no the washing basket thing is freaking me out now too 🤢 dirty washing in one & clean in different one - how is that not obvious?

I do OP.
The meat was cooked so there's no bacteria worth fretting about at that stage and even if it's been recontaminated with some form of spore forming bacteria that produces heat stable toxins, you have to leave the bones kicking about at room temperature for long enough for the spore formers to reach toxin producing levels. Put them in the fridge or freezer and they'll be fine.
Staph Aureus would be the biggest risk, unless you have family members with ebola or anthrax, in which case you probably have better things to worry about than making stock!

It's also worth bearing in mind that if Brexit goes ahead, food prices are likely to rise. Our children are already growing up in a world where wages are lower and housing costs higher than they were in my youth.

Teaching children about not wasting food and using leftovers is about helping them to budget and recycle and use resources wisely.

I doubt whether in my mother's youth - when food was rationed - everybody decided, 'Oh how grim, how disgusting' and swept nutritious uneaten food in to the bin...

The partner who presumably you kiss with open mouth and often put their genitals in your mouth...

Oh God, see that actually makes it worse

The thought of kids eating bones their mum has sucked, after sucking their dad's....errrm....boner!

Surely, food prices rise then all the more reason to switch to Oxo with a long shelf life and eat short lived veg in a meal before it gets so grim the only thing to be done with it is boil it for three hours and then fling it out.

It's worth mentioning that Oxo cubes have been on sale to the public for over 100 years.

If you Google about the nutrititional benefits of bone broth there's plenty of information out there.

Whether beef or chicken concentrate plus MSG/flavour enhancer has the same benefits seems very doubtful indeed.

So I shall keep on, keeping on.... while eating plenty of delicious food.

I use the bones in a similar way but not if people have been gnawing on them what if they have oral herpes, oral thrush, tonsillitis?

Grim tbh. Unbitten bones absolutely fine as is the cat getting the remains.

Is it just your family you feed it to or guests as well?

If it's the latter, do they know?

Yep making buse of leftovers from other people's plates is not pleasant.

The partner who presumably you kiss with open mouth and often put their genitals in your mouth...

Not to mention when dgm and dgd come to visit or aunt Olga who apparent is an expert in bjs 🤣

I'm a bit of a grot and even I find it gross to take back the bones from people's plates. Yuck.

I'm with you on the home made stock though, it's much better than bought.

@marvik I mean I throw away the stalks and rinds of certain fruits and vegetables because they are unappetising or hard to eat/digest... I do the same with meat. I presume you buy prepared chickens and don't remove and cook the heart, livers and intestines too?

I wouldn't be as bothered by my own family's bones, but roasts here tend to involve friends, my step mum and dad, step brothers.... I don't like the thought of using their germs

I would think this totally skanky...any leftover food that has been on someone's plate is not for a communal stock pot