To be sick of being stereotyped as thick, poor, racist and white?

[Happydaughterhappymum]

I am educated to higher degree level, am well off, have children at Oxbridge, give to charity, am an exceptionally nice landlord (to tenants outside the EU) and.... a Brexiteer. I do not live in London or the South East.

I am thoroughly sick and tired of champagne socialists painting me as a thick, white and racist for promoting a United Kingdom which supports its own populace over a swathe of left-leaning liberals in EU land.

No stereotyping there from you whatsoever...

Yes this. Not particularly well off but degree educated and hate that I am seen as uneducated for supporting Brexit.

I am thoroughly sick and tired of champagne socialists painting me as a thick, white and racist for promoting a United Kingdom which supports its own populace over a swathe of left-leaning liberals in EU land.
Pot , kettle...

Are you not white?

And the problem with left leaning liberals is...?

To be honest I would be surprised if you're that well educated why are you in favor of Brexit? What exact EU laws do you find are to the detriment of the UK and how are you measuring this detriment? How are you measuring the benefit of being out of the EU? What kind of support do you envisage being given to the Uk by the Uk outside of the EU? What social groups / industries etc?

Me, too, OP.

But name-changing, as will be personally attacked.

You go girl!

Pot kettle
Shot self in foot there OP for also stereotyping others

Just try and ignore it OP. I read recently that a third of the people who's voting intention was Brexit party next week were ABC1.

It's a lazy argument aimed at silencing people but has actually done the opposite ironically.

AnnaStein the usual nonsense missing-the-point entirely!

So you've helped to cause this god-awful situation, but will be largely insulated from the effects (as you have at least two incomes to rely on), and are bright enough to have understood the problems likely to have resulted from your vote had you bothered to?

Well done you.

for promoting a United Kingdom which supports its own populace

Its own populace or people like you? The UK has one of the worst levels of inequality in the world, and that's not because of the EU.

YANBU but you won't get much sympathy on here.

Try a different forum - this one is only for clever research-based cognitive geniuses only who have amazingly all concluded that remain is the only permissible way to have voted.

Any attempt to argue otherwise will immediately have you swamped with logical fully reasoned arguments about why you are not only wrong, but scum.

Pot meet kettle.

People who voted trump get angry at being called racist. They aren't all going to be racist... But they are voting for the the same man that the KKK voted for so 🤷‍♀️ Same stereotyping you seem to use, thinking people who voted to remain are all just espousing socialist ideas while enjoying a luxurious lifestyle?

My family always get pegged as remainders because we are mixed race, international, well off, well educated etc etc. Ironically all of these things contribute to varying degrees of brexiteering. Especially because a lot of us have law degrees (EU law being a compulsory module when we did them) andwork in areas like finance.

*my phone still hasn’t caught up with the brexit lingo

Well YABU for doing exactly what you’re accusing other people of doing to you

And I’m sorry but I refuse to have faith in the intelligence or rationality of anyone who thinks this clusterfuck is going to benefit anyone except a few politicians and millionaires who can afford to rise above it.

Ranting at other folk for stereotyping by, well, stereotyping.

Bright.

The issue is probably if you voted for Brexit parties because of one thing (leaving the EU for whatever reason you have), you essentially endorse all of their positions. You can't vote for something but ask for it not to count on the nastier sides.

E.g. my mum voted for Brexit but also voted UKIP at the general election. She voted for Brexit to keep the immigrants out (we fell out over this) and voted UKIP because she decided it was a protest vote. But didn't realise her vote could be included as validation for UKIP as another person who believed in all their policies. She didn't realise voting for Brexit would result in businesses leaving the UK, she said she didn't want that she just didn't want immigrants.

So OP, you may not be thick or racist but you have voted for something that validates the position of parties who have proven themselves to be thick and racist.

It's the choice you make when you vote. Do you vote for one issue you believe in and ignore all the other connected positions that you abhor, or do you find a party/politician/referendum choice that is on balance something that you are comfortable with and let's you sleep at night.

Left leaning liberal here. I would never stereotype brexiters with the description you do but I often notice a whiney but incorrect sense of victimhood as demonstrated in your OP.

No, you’re the group who thinks they are insulated enough to ride out the storm. The elite who don’t give a shit about how damaging Brexit could be to those already on the breadline. Your the Farage camp of Leaver.

And thanks for defining me as a ‘champagne socialist’. I actually prefer gin and I hate Corbyn. But I believe in the EU.

Lazy stereotypes are lazy.

Some of our best well off racists are Oxford educated.

You can have all the education and wealth in the world, but still be a bigot.

I dont know why you would even think this is relevant. Some of the most dangerous bigots are the educated ones - Exhibit A - the snake that is Farage.

Making common cause with Nigel Farage does rather compromise one I’m afraid.