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To wonder whether everyone accepts that beauty products don’t work?

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SinkGirl · 17/05/2019 05:58

I don’t know about anyone else but I’m so used to beauty (and especially) hair products not doing what they say they do that I’m often really shocked when they do what they say they will. I spent a brief spell in marketing for an insurance company and everything we said was so tightly regulated. Beauty companies can say whatever they like it seems, digitally manipulate images, do a “trial” on 11 women and then proudly state that almost 90% of women said it worked... 🙄

I hadn’t spent a penny on make up or skin care for years until a few months ago when I bought a few bits which were okay but nothing staggering. Got an event coming up tonight and I went a bit mad - I bought heaps of stuff: hair care, make up, skin care etc.

Most of it is absolute crap and doesn’t live up to its claims. I generally just accept this in a way I wouldn’t with other things but whenever they work it’s always a nice surprise (will list the few things I’m happy with below in case anyone is looking!)

I find it strange that we are so (rightly) hot on false advertising but this is an entire industry that seems to get away with it. I realise everyone’s skin and hair is different, but if you buy something that’s meant to volumise fine flyaway hair, which you have, but does absolutely nothing, surely that’s a bit ridiculous? And these things are always no returns so even if what you’ve got is basically scented baby oil, you’re scuppered.

These are the things I’ve tried that work as advertised this week - three out of over 30 products (yes, I splurged!)

  • The Ordinary AHA BHA peel - have used loads of acid peels before so I was a bit blase about this one. Ended up burning the skin off my cheekbones after only a few minutes 😳 It’s very effective though!
  • Estée Lauder powerfoil night recovery mask - got one of these in a lot of mini EL products. Used it last night and my skin this morning is absolutely amazing. Not greasy at all but softer, smoother, lines reduced, calmed the burnt cheeks... it’s amazing. Shame it’s so expensive (cheapest I’ve found is about £55 for 4 and you’re meant to use 1 a week but I’m considering using one every month / couple of weeks maybe)
  • The Ordinary coverage foundation - I bought a few foundations as my skin changes quite a bit during my cycle and this one is awesome. Lasted all day even while running around, sweating etc. And it’s onlh £6 so you can buy a few shades and mix if you find it hard to get a colour match.
OP posts:
Oblomov19 · 17/05/2019 10:02

Most of it is a load of rubbish. 90% of testers? Oh the 10, then?
How do they get away with these claims?

pickletickled · 17/05/2019 10:04

HellonHeels
I bought some Moroccan rose oil when I visited there on my Honeymoon. I had used it a little on my face and it felt lovely.
So because of that I bought more here but it just wasn't the same sadly. The Moroccan one was probably filled full of cheap shite to sell to gullible tourists haha and I'll never know what the hell actually made my skin nice.
I also quite like Nivea original on my face. It feels lovely however it does tend to break me out especially when I'm hormonal. I can never get the get the amount to use right.

MadeleineMaxwell · 17/05/2019 10:07

Stuff I use:

Alberto Balsam shampoo (£1 a bottle)
Cantu Define & Shine Custard (tiny bit)
Aqueous cream
Nothing else

Been through loads of ineffectual bollocks in the past.

I feel good. My wallet is happy, too.

RavenLG · 17/05/2019 10:12

Definitely agree. I've stopped having a 'face' routine and just use a reusable cloth make up remover, wash with soap and use a moisturiser from lush (Vanishing Cream in the morning and Dream Cream in the evening). Perhaps Nivea blue tub if I've ran out and can't get to lush (side note: this is all my DNanna used and she looked radiant until the day she died, and the smell reminds me of her).

Hair wise, I don't believe anything really helps. When I was younger I used to spend a fortune on products to make my hair thicker and longer. Until I read about hair cycles and realized my hair would never ever be longer. So stopped. DP has long hair and treats it like shit and it's still fabulous. Envy

Alsohuman · 17/05/2019 10:21

I knew opening this thread would make me angry! It was inevitable that it would be full of people claiming to use a Brillo pad and lard on their face and having the skin of a 12 year old. And then recommending injecting poison into it. Madness.

AlexaAmbidextra · 17/05/2019 10:22

Touché Eclat is an expensive con. Aldi concealer is better.

One thing that really irritates me is ads for mascara. The model has extraordinarily thick, lustrous lashes that are so obviously fake and we are expected to believe she’s wearing just mascara.

showmethegin · 17/05/2019 10:22

I have been using the la prairie dupe in Aldi, the caviar day and night cream and the lines around my eyes and the big frown line in between my eyebrows have gone. Completely gone. I've never know anything like it! Says a lot when you are shocked that something does what it says it will!!

YesQueen · 17/05/2019 10:23

@Alsohuman no Brillo pad here Grin I do have a really good routine that works for me as I get hormonal acne. Mrs Hirons did say sod off when I told her how old I was and then told me not to change anything!

TheCanterburyWhales · 17/05/2019 10:38

Touche Eclat is also a highlighter rather than a concealer so makes people look like a panda taken in negative.
Any moisturiser suitable for your skin will do what it's supposed to do: moisturise. It won't knock 30 years off.
Any cleanser used thoroughly (massaged in for longer, removed with cloth) will do, and will always have more of an effect than micellar water.

Serums will do something if they contain HA, actives, peptides etc. They won't knock 30 years off either.

What will make a difference is an acid toner, a Vit C serum, and retinol.

Oils are nice. They add more moisture and plumping. They won't knock 30 yrs off. I've tried lots and for my skin, rosehip does nothing (it's recommended more for youngish oily type skin rather than ancient dry and wrinkly like me) The best I've used where I actually feel all plumped in the morning is Body Shop oils of life.

I fell for all the Ordinary hype a few years ago and bought all the products they recommended to me (funny that) I chucked it all.

I've got ANR which is £60
I've got Nivea which is £3
Both are great

Alsohuman · 17/05/2019 10:58

Why would anyone want to look 30 years younger? Everyone knows roughly how old you are, especially if you have children. Why don't we just own our age while making the best of our looks?

Purplegecko · 17/05/2019 11:05

So with you on The Ordinary products. I prefer the serum foundation personally! And the azaelic (sp?) acid and the Hylamide pore blurring serum its pretty good.
I also adore Glossier's SPF, concealer and brow gel, as I tend to go for a no-makeup look most days.
Best hair stuff I've ever used is the garnier oatmilk shampoo and conditioner, £2 each. Have waist length beautifully thick hair, didn't realise how awfully brittle and dry it was using expensive stuff!

Having said that, I did buy a Bobbi Brown primer on sale with a Christmas voucher, so I wouldn't have paid full price for it just to try it out, and it's incredible. It makes my skin look so fresh and glow-y!

My favourite skincare product are hydrocolloid spot dots, I STILL get hormonal breakouts and they are just amazing.

I've had so many expensive makeup and skincare products, YSL, Estee lauder, Chanel etc. And more often than not, its the cheap little gems that become my Holy Grails

daisyjgrey · 17/05/2019 11:18

I've switched all my skincare to The Ordinary and am really impressed, everything I've bought is excellent and does what it says. The suncream I can wear daily without ending up a spotty greasy mess and the primer is cracking. Never paid more than about £8 for anything either.

DontCallMeShitley · 17/05/2019 11:25

I stopped wasting money on things years ago. I use E45 lotion as it doesn't give me spots like other things and isn't perfumed.

I use a clean facecloth and plain water on my skin.

I have good skin. However I have never used makeup on my face other than blusher. Used to use Clarins creams and lotions but found I had no need for them and the perfumes made my eyes sore eventually.

NicoAndTheNiners · 17/05/2019 11:31

Well i was just coming on to say that I've found The Ordinary products seem to be effective ...but see you make an exception for them.

I have also found a foundation which gives the appearance of glowy skin and I get compliments so will keep using that, guess it's not skin care though.

I think pixi glow works, also some scrubby cleanser pads which make my skin feel really fresh.

Ive found that expensive hair products make a difference to the frizz. Again not skin care and I accept it's not really making any difference to my hair long term and I'm probably just costing my hair in silicone/plastic but it looks better. So I'm happy.

clairemcnam · 17/05/2019 11:40

I have found that a lot of expensive products just dry my skin or even make it blotchy.

floribunda18 · 17/05/2019 11:43

I think stuff like moisturiser and body lotion is a no-brainer. It won't stop you getting wrinkles but good ones will make your skin look and feel nicer at the time. Sun protection will help prevent ageing (or at least, ageing faster than you would out of the sun). Make-up can make you look better but any beauty product only does so much. Diet and exercise help the most.

Hithere12 · 17/05/2019 11:48

You’ve only got to look at all the beauty bloggers like Caroline Hirons, Nadine Baggot etc, who have access to the most expensive products, to see that they do not work

To be fair you have dermatologists like Dr Sam Bunting who is 45 who looks like she’s in her late twenties

Hithere12 · 17/05/2019 11:49

Diet and exercise help the most

No they don’t. 80% of skin aging is due to UVA rays. Using a good sunscreen and wearing hats is the most important thing.

clairemcnam · 17/05/2019 11:53

I know women with lots of wrinkles who are very fit. But they were keen sunbathers and smoked. Alcohol also ages your skin.
Stay out of the sun, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke and get decent nights sleep, that will do much more than anything you can buy.
Also if you have a chronic health problem, it often shows in your skin.

serenoa · 17/05/2019 12:00

I read somewhere that most makeup photo models are about 14, not as old as 19!

I'm 72 and a makeup addict. I've been using moisturiser since I was about 13, but it wasn't called that back then, it was just skin cream. I started when I pinched a bit from my Mum's jar of Ponds' stuff and she saw me. The little jar had an orange lid and there was a matching one which had a green lid. That was 'cold cream', good for taking makeup off.

I've used makeup every day since leaving school; if not full face, then always moisturiser and often sunscreen, and have lived in tropical places where sunscreen's really compulsory if you don't want to get burned. The most expensive skin care stuff I've ever used is LaRoche Posay which I really like and still use now; the Toleriane cleanser is £12 for 400ml in Boots and it takes everything off easily. I have some products from The Ordinary along with the LRP, like the Granactive Retinoid 2% which really makes a difference to my skin texture, and a couple of others. I use the Rose Hip Seed Oil after the retinol; it's very soothing and moisturising. The only downside to that, is that my cat likes the taste of it and I sometimes wake up in the mornings having had a furry special exfoliation treatment! It doesn't do him any harm either.

It's probably more the result of proper skincare, moisturiser and sunscreen, but my skin is noticeably better than my mother's and my aunts', and some of my friends, at the same age. I'm fair-skinned, with freckles, and burn very easily. Yes, my eyelids are a bit droopy and I have a few lines but I don't have the older generation's real wrinkly wrinkles. I don't smoke and I drink mostly water when I'm thirsty, so that probably helps.

When something arrives from Cult Beauty or one of those other companies I love the samples that come with the order, all sorts of different skincare goodies. I try them out and think 'Ooh, that feels nice' then I look at the price of Pai, Drunk Elephant, Sunday Riley or whoever and think 'YOU ARE KIDDING!'. I've done without that spending that kind of money on skincare for all these years, I don't need to start now. For my hair I mostly use the usual supermarket shampoo/conditioner/style product range. I've tried buying much more expensive, and haven't found it worth it.

One thing I have stopped doing, is using petroleum-based products on my skin, it reacts badly to them, and I've replaced them with plant-based products, e.g. Nuxe lip balm instead of Vaseline or other mineral oil-based product. I do like those French pharmacy brands, and Kiehl's body lotion (a gift) which is very expensive but gorgeous. I save it mostly for my feet because I wear sandals for as much of the year as possible. I'll probably try Bioderma when it runs out, it's half the price. The Nuxe lip balm is as good a lip primer as MAC's Prep and Prime.

I do think a good skincare maintenance routine will give a better skin in later years than doing nothing until you see a problem. It's a good investment but definitely doesn't have to be expensive. I'm glad men are taking more notice now.

ashvivienne · 17/05/2019 12:30

I use Elemis skincare from the cleanser to my night cream everything. I do use an it cosmetics neck cream.
I buy my stuff from QVC - 30 day money back guarantee so if I don’t like it I can send it back and get my money back it’s not free returns but honestly the cost to return it isn’t very high at the post office

Queenie8 · 17/05/2019 12:43

For pigmentation - microdermabrasion works. I had a Groupon deal, had three sessions ten years ago and it's never returned.

For frizz - argon oil and the Wet2 brush

The Ordinary - I'm using the no brainer set, plus adding in granactive during the day. I've been using it for eight weeks, and honestly my skin is no better. I have a mini tube of M&S Formula night and my skin looks amazing in the morning.

Mascara - Eyeko is awesome, any of the formulations, doesn't clump, lengthens and lasts all day.

BluebellCockleshell123 · 17/05/2019 12:46

I've had bad skin since I was a teenager (I was on roaccutane for a while so really quite bad). I have scarring and occasionally breakouts.

I've not found many products that make a difference. The one thing that improved my skin most dramatically was a dermaroller.

woodhill · 17/05/2019 13:02

I am finding Murad retinol serum very good. I use it at night.

I like the Elemis cleanser I am using too.

I think having facials improve the skin greatly.

I know what you mean though OP.

So much hype and marketing.

I do like Clarins and the double serum was great.

Also like Organix rose oil serum

breakfastpizza · 17/05/2019 13:04

I have oily skin w/ large pores that flakes badly. I've tried everything and come back to a simple routine of:

  • Low PH cleanser (Nivea atm)
  • Vitamin C Serum
  • Urea-based moisturiser (keeps the flaking at bay)

Once in a while skin "treats"

  • Clay mask
  • Home microdermabrasion
  • Derma rolling

For my hair, I use purple shampoo which definitely DOES help with keeping the blonde highlights from going brassy.

I'm in my 30s and am constantly mistaken for 10 years younger but I do think that's down to the oily skin part. I just focus on keeping everything clean and fresh.

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