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To think the Police attitude to this is outrageous

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badlydrawnperson · 16/05/2019 08:30

The Police are "trialling" facial recognition snooping. A man who decided he didn't want to participate in their trial was fined £90 for a "public order offence".

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000501m/click-short-edition-facial-recognition

Absolutely outrageous. There's a (good) reason San Francisco has just banned this technology.

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Buster72 · 16/05/2019 17:05

If I was walking along a street and covered my face, and a Police officer told me to uncover it I would say no, if he then uncovered my face and took a photo I would be very annoyed

Outside of a limited set of circumstances you would be within your rights to get upset.....

But that is NOT what is being discussed. Is it right police use sophisticated technology to recognise people they know/ have an interest in and use it to further investigations.?
They have used CCTV for the last two decades.
ANPR has been around for a decade.
This is the next step....no-one is being forced to participate in a programme and having face coverings removed....

Pretty soon your town cctv will have facial recognition software...it will spot a wanted person and send a signal to the police control room...who will despatch an officer to effect an arrest.

This already happens to a degree but it relies on human intervention and is not always reliable because humans are fallible and don't always watch the camera.

(Don't worry too much there are not enough cops to do the arrest)

1tisILeClerc · 16/05/2019 17:06

{Just following orders?}

Not much of a defense for Auschwitz.

So how does this work for those wearing Burkas or other 'religious' face covering?

pikapikachu · 16/05/2019 17:14

@Buster
qz.com/1205604/if-youre-a-darker-skinned-woman-the-best-facial-recognition-software-frequently-thinks-youre-a-man/

This is about a study conducted by someone from MIT and Microsoft which basically comes to the conclusion that the coding is biased because the data used is biased.

"Facial recognition companies train their algorithms by exposing them to image databases full of faces. If the images in these databases are overwhelmingly white, the algorithms will likely identify the characteristics of a white face with more accuracy than a dark-skinned face. In the paper, the researchers name data sets—IJB-A and Adience—as examples of commonly-used image databases that contain a large majority of light-skinned faces. Faces of darker women made up only 4.4% of IJB-A images and 7.4% of subjects in Adience, according to the paper."

badlydrawnperson · 16/05/2019 17:24

This already happens to a degree but it relies on human intervention and is not always reliable because humans are fallible and don't always watch the camera.

The tech isn't any better - it had a 98% error rate at the Notting Hill Carnival in August 2017.

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Buster72 · 16/05/2019 19:18

@badlydrawnperson

I remember that one lol. But it is still a trial and will improve.

@pikapicachu....you win the bet , good thing they acknowledge the shortcomings and works on it's improvement

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