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Family Fighting - AIBU

43 replies

Adsy1988 · 12/05/2019 13:50

Long post, apologies, but looking for input.

I split from my now ex wife three years ago. When I moved out we agreed we would coparent our children, and as she worked five nights on, five off at the time, I would have the kids when she was working.

She changed jobs six months after separating, working mixed shifts, but basically I would get the kids when she was working and the odd other day to give her time off.

It became more erratic trying to get the shifts from her that she was working (would change every month, no two weeks tended to be the same), so when I began divorce proceedings last year, I said to my solicitor that I wanted to get set days put in place as it would make my life a lot simpler knowing when I could plan stuff with the kids and when I could arrange to do things when they were with their Mum.

Basically she went mental at this, and stopped me from seeing the children for three weeks, believing that it was my girlfriend who was pushing for set days, and she refused to dance to her tune.

My parents got involved, and whilst they didn’t side with her exactly, they basically enabled her behaviour by volunteering to collect the kids from school when otherwise I would have been doing it.

Eventually after three long, horrendous and sleepless weeks, my ex relented and allowed me to have access to the kids again.

During this time that I was not allowed to see my boys social services were involved at the school as my eldest son reported to the school that his mother had assaulted him in the home. Nothing came of the investigation and she strenuously denied the allegation.

I basically have had no contact whatsoever with any of my family since I discovered this late last year, as I was absolutely speechless that my parents knew my son had reported this to the school, and didn’t inform me, believing that it wasn’t their responsibility, and that my ex should have told me.

My sister hasn’t spoken to me since this all happened as well as she is disgusted that my mum and I had a good relationship prior to this, but it has just left a bitter taste in my mouth that my parents not only enabled her behaviour, but didn’t tell me about social services being involved.

Since all of this I have managed to get set days in place, we take it week about, and the boys are thriving. I have started speaking to my mum maybe once every two weeks, but things aren’t really the same.

My girlfriend has basically stated that she wants nothing to do with them and as far as she is concerned they will never be a part of our lives going forward. Whilst I see her point, I would like at some point to be able to be in the same room as them and to get along again.

So, AIBU at being raging at how they acted, but also AIBU to ask for some sort of relationship with my parents going forward? I’m never going to get an apology from them for how they acted, but you only get one set of parents!

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Coyoacan · 12/05/2019 15:24

Heck, forgive your parents. What they did, they did in support of their grandchildren and personally, anyone who supports my child is ok by me.

My ex-MIL was one of the most valuable people in my dd's life, yet over the years she did some horrendous things to me out of misplaced loyalty. But she was good and loving to my dd.

We don't have social rules for the right way for in-laws to behave after a separation or divorce and everyone is just winging it. Sometimes they get it wrong.

MatildaTheCat · 12/05/2019 15:28

All this taking over who said what is pointless. Every person will have their own perspective on it. It’s over and you now have the access you wanted and clearly your parents love their gc and do a lot to maintain a relationship with them. So many people post on here about uninterested grandparents, you might be glad of their support.

You all need to move on. Either just decide to put it behind you and gradually build up your contact or have a face to face meeting in a neutral place. Do NOT discuss the ins and out of the argument, just ask if you can put it behind you all and move on.

Life is much too short to have huge, long lasting feuds in families.

somecakefather · 12/05/2019 15:32

My girlfriend has basically stated that she wants nothing to do with them and as far as she is concerned they will never be a part of our lives going forward

It's really not your girlfriends place to decide how your relationship with your parents pans out. Your parents have done nothing wrong to her have they? She can decide she wants nothing to do with them whether they have wronged her or not but it's up to you to decide what kind of relationship you will have with your parents.

JingsMahBucket · 12/05/2019 15:38

@Adsy1988 thanks for answering my question. Yeah, I do think your ex probably mentioned she’s a single mum when that’s untrue. Are you able to go the school with birth certificates or something to show you’re also the parent and are actively parenting so you can be put on the contact forms?

BTW, don’t feel the need to respond to every single poster on here including the ones who are being insulting or rude. That which way madness lies because some people project a lot (bad exH experiences) or are just tying to push your buttons. Focus on solutions. :)

Everydayimhuffling · 12/05/2019 15:44

Have you spoken to your parents about why they are helping in this way? I would want to understand their reasoning and tell them that I felt it prolonged the situation.

I also agree with PP that it would be worth making a complaint to SS and checking what the school's contact arrangements are to ensure you both hear about anything you need to know. TBH it is almost worse to me that they mentioned the SS involvement if that was accidental: they should have a clear policy about who gets what information. Did they also tell your parents? Because they had no reason to do that.

Chocolate50 · 12/05/2019 15:49

Oh OP you have done brilliantly for sorting out arrangements to see your children, I can see why you'd be narked at your parents and maybe your GF just wants a quiet life & doesn't want you to be upset by your parents again?
Its a hard one, but start by talking to your GF about what you want and how you feel about things, I agree that life is short and its a shame that if you got on well with them before that you can't again. I wouldn't forget it entirely though - I personally would want to know that they wouldn't do something like this again, but as you say, you doubt that you will get this reassurance, but the situation is more settled now with you seeing your children regularly and they are happy. I am sure they would be even happier if they saw you get on with their grandparents again, but I think you have to do this with your girlfriend, so that she can be part of the decision - I am sure your guilt is about not including her with your thoughts about your parents.

Adsy1988 · 12/05/2019 17:17

Everyday I have spoken to them, they continue to say it was for the kids, they only wanted what was best for them. Which I see, totally, their lives revolve around their grandkids, but I can’t get why they don’t see what they done was detrimental to my relationship with the kids and why they didn’t tell me about SS getting involved.

Thanks Chocolate, all I am doing and have ever wanted to do was give my kids stability. I just want to know whether I am right to want a relationship with my parents and whether my girlfriend is right in saying that she wants nothing to do with them.

Just a shitty situation all round really.

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Adsy1988 · 12/05/2019 17:20

Jings, I got copies of their birth certificates once I began divorce proceedings as she refused to give them to me, so will take them to the school as that could help. Their line is bloody awful, basically one number per family is allowed on their database, meaning I only find out if they have an outing through my ex. I demanded to be kept in touch with once all this kicked off last year but lasted a week as it was an actual person texting me rather than being an automated message sent out by the school. For all the will in the world they are a decent school, but they just cannot bend at times with rules and procedures.

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Coyoacan · 12/05/2019 17:22

I wouldn't forget it entirely though

It is impossible to forget something like that entirely, but in families, we get over most things and they become less important with the passage of time.

RandomMess · 12/05/2019 17:28

The school by law has to update you? Find the rulings and print them off and take them to the school with you to show that their rules are unacceptable!!

MyCatHogsTheBed · 12/05/2019 17:52

D'you know what, I take my previous comment back. What you've done does make perfect sense.

Chocolate50 · 12/05/2019 20:01

I think the question is- can you trust your parents? & can your GF move past it to continue to support you in your relationship with your parents?
It does sound like you are trying to move past it but your parents aren't quite being straight with you & there is your problem.

I would still be discussing things with your GF & approach it as a joint problem. You don't need to struggle with it on your own - your GF sounds really lovely & obviously wants the best for you all so that's the way to go.
One other thought, it isn't just down to you to mend the relationship- your parents could be making an effort too - its not just your responsibility so don't take it all on yourself!

Nearlythere1 · 12/05/2019 20:22

OP, about your girlfriend and her being the only one that stuck by you and fought your corner... Sometimes, actually many times, the supportive girlfriend is actually very instrumental in keeping a rift going though it might not seem like it. I think it suits her to have you isolated from your family, i'm very sorry.

Allfednonedead · 12/05/2019 21:26

Hi, just chipping in with a small practical suggestion. Our school used to have the same ‘one contact number per family’ rule, which lots of people got round by putting a different number for each DC.
The downside is that you only get the messages for that child, but that includes all-school stuff, which tends to be the most important.

Durgasarrow · 12/05/2019 21:50

Your girlfriend is way out of line. Whatever problems you may be having with your ex wife now, presumably you will work them out. You are a man with children. Did she not know that when she started going out with you? She is a massively entitled and selfish bitch. Her behavior is--well, you have been warned.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 12/05/2019 22:02

I just want to know whether I am right to want a relationship with my parents and whether my girlfriend is right in saying that she wants nothing to do with them.

It doesn't matter if you're right. It doesn't matter if your girlfriend is right. It doesn't matter what anyone on here thinks. It matters how you move forward.

Your girlfriend has no right to dictate to you how you move forward. She has no right to try and create a barrier between you and your parents. It sounds as though you're going to need your parents help, love and support if you and your Ex are going to move forward successfully, and it sounds as though they simply made a judgement call that you don't agree with.

Your parents need boundaries, so set them now. Tell them directly and honestly how much you're struggling, how much you'd love for them to be behind you and how much you want them in your DCs lives. And then speak to your Ex and work out what's best for your DC.

Earlier on in another post you said you felt your Ex could make sure her working hours are compatible with childcare. In reality, how practical is that? I teach, and although I could technically reduce my hours, the reality is that I can't condense my hours around the DC so my family and my Exes family pick up the slack when I'm unable. It doesn't devalue my role in their lives, nor does it give anyone rights over my DC, it just means family are stepping in and helping me run a job, a home, a life whilst simultaneously raising lovely DC. You and your Ex are doing the same; let your parents know that you want them to be part of your team.

snowdrop6 · 12/05/2019 22:10

Bizarre that you lay the blame at your parents door

Chocolate50 · 13/05/2019 09:31

Snowdrop
I don't think that's it. OP is struggling with a situation that has happened & doesn't know how best to move forward with it.

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