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He doesn’t want me or the baby - pregnant and still hurt

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StrongLady19 · 08/05/2019 11:43

Hey guys! My 1st post!

I’ve known this guy for about 5 years. We worked in the same industry so it was a few
texts here and there and a “hello” when we saw each other. He was in a long-term relationship with a son and I’d sometimes ask about her and the son.

Fast forward to the last 2 years, we became closer. We both realised we got on really well so our friendship grew like brother and sister. Such a lovely guy! Last year him and his friends surprised me on my birthday and took me out. Spent lots of money on fun and champagne. From then on we became even closer. I’d seek his advice about guys wanting to date me and he’d talk about his now fiancé and son.

As time went on he confided in me (we spoke almost everyday) about how he’s tried to leave her many times but she’ll threaten him about seeing his son, how they’ve broken up many times and he’s dated other girls but they ran away eventually because they didn’t really believe he’d split up with his baby’s mother. He’d also complain about her being a bad mother and how her family asks him for money and that he felt stuck with her. I would always advise him to be patient and things will get better. I’d say don’t break up a family and you love her.

Anyway he went to the US last September. Came back and said he’s finally found courage to leave her. I laughed and resisted saying you don’t break up with someone after 7 years. He said he’d grown to love me, that I’m amazing and he can’t let this chance pass him by. I felt the same, he’s giving, caring, good listener, so sweet etc. We started a relationship. It was amazing!!!! Met some of his family, we went out to do dinners, clubs, we discussed having a kid in one year and where we’d live. He said he’d fallen head over heels in love with me. I asked a few times sternly for him to use a condom but he insisted I use the pill instead. After 1 month we’d had a small argument at his house. He’d been moody all day and stayed away from me for half the day so I was like look you invited me to stay here the weekend, I don’t live far, if you want to be alone I’ll come back later - this was after asking if he’s okay and trying to make him feel better. He said I was too sensitive and broke up with me. He broke up with me another 2 times over the next 2 months. He would ignore me for days at a time, I would beg and beg and then he’d make up when he’s ready. Reasons would be you said something I don’t like, he’d stop talking to me for days.

Son and mother came in from the US late Dec for Christmas. He became distant, I asked him to confess if they were back together and he said yes. This was my biggest fear and I felt stupid for ignoring myself. He wanted to see us both. I cried, we fought and eventually I realised I couldn’t be anyone’s mistress so I left him. 2 days later I found out I was pregnant. He asked for a paternity test, accused me of trapping him, said I got pregnant on purpose because my other relationships didn’t work out and decided to pick him because he was a good dad. Said he fell in love with me because he was depressed, that I was a mistake and I’m trying to ruin his life. I was going to abort because I didn’t want to break up their family. Last minute I changed my mind, all my friends said I’d be ruined with depression if I aborted especially because I was doing it for him.

I’m 6.5 months pregnant, been in hospital with fibroid degeneration, my pregnancy is high risk, never wanted to be a single mother, I’m heartbroken, he wants nothing to do with me. He rubs his baby’s mother in my face on social media. On Mother’s Day I didn’t get a text but he posted a pic of her calling her his one and only. He is cold whenever I reach out. I sent him updates twice, either ignored scan pic or sent a one word answer. I got so upset that I sent a long message saying he should never contact us again because my child will not have contact with someone that doesn’t want her. Then I blocked him. A month later I was so emotional and I embarrassingly reached out to him and said I was sorry for the outburst and asked to start again. He ignored me. Friends and family say who cares about him? Move on and forget him. Yes that’s true. But it hurts SO bad. I’m not myself, I’m no longer happy, I had to quit work due to constant appointments and the high risk pregnancy. I feel like he doesn’t want the child because it came out of me. He’s hiding it from his circle too. It’s like he’s embarrassed of us. I also found out his baby’s mother is pregnant too and due any moment. I’m due in 3 months.

She has him for all antenatal appointments. He’s never been to see me, even while I was in hospital in severe pain on morphine. He doesn’t contact me. He sent £3000 for baby items and up keep that I had to ask for 4 times and had many arguments before I got it. I can’t even bring myself to ever ask for monthly payments when my baby is here because I HATE ASKING MEN for money. That was my first time ever! It was my friends that said I should ask because he makes a lot of money. I’ve beeb dumped, embarrassed, rejected. I don’t know how to go on. I think I should do this on my own. I will never forget the things he said to me and I don’t want my daughter around a man that doesn’t want her. How do I go on? I’m in so much pain. Baby’s mother also sent messages to me on Instagram calling me a home wrecker and that her man wants me to terminate and that I will pay for my actions. I don’t know how to go on...

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Confusedbeetle · 08/05/2019 11:49

This is such a mess. Stop all social media. This is not a relationship

Dinosforall · 08/05/2019 11:52

Bluntly, you are going to have to do this on your own as he's obviously not interested in facing up to his responsibilities. On the plus side you won't have this utter that in your life any longer.

Chickychoccyegg · 08/05/2019 11:55

well dont really know where to start, but you'll be fine on your own, and your baby will be loved by you and your family.
Your ex sounds like a horrible, selfish arse, your better off without him, he cheats, manipulates/ignores you, you dont need him, do not get in touch with him, block his number and his dp, go through cms for maintanance and get on with your life, you can do this!!, you and your baby dont need him. good luck xx

Loopytiles · 08/05/2019 11:56

Time to get real, and be a single parent.

BeanBag7 · 08/05/2019 12:00

Block him on social media or stop using it all together. Collecting child maintenance is not begging for money, it's giving your child what they deserve. Do it all through CMS so they will do the chasing and meditation. If he had given you 3k it sounds like he will do the decent thing and pay but don't have a casual agreement, go through official channels.

TakeMe2Insanity · 08/05/2019 12:01

Draw a line under every thing. Cut ties. Concentrate on you and your baby. You don’t need him. Time to be strong.

OutInTheCountry · 08/05/2019 12:08

Bloody hell OP, there's a lot there! I'm so sorry that this has turned out this way.

I'm sure some-one will be along who's better at the emotional bit but I think practically you need to separate you own sense of self-worth from this man and his wife. You've decided to do this alone, and that sounds really scary, but it's what you've decided and so that's what you're bloody well going to do. It sounds like on some level you thought he was going to change his mind, but he's not, is he?

Establish what you are entitled to and how involved, if at all, he is going to be in your daughters upbringing, if you hate asking for money then you need to get over that. For her sake as well as yours you can't spend the next 18 years simpering about how daddy didn't want us and he's off with his real family. Also, she may have an opportunity to connect with this family, including her half-siblings, at some point in the future.

Assuming that he'll make a financial contribution and not an emotional one you need to concentrate on how you're going to give birth and raise a child with the support network you have. You've got to put yourself and your child first and you can't do that if you're sulking over instagram posts. You might need some counselling to get on a better emotional footing before the birth?

Have you got much help? A support network?

Magicpaintbrush · 08/05/2019 12:23

I agree with the PP about counselling - you have been through the wringer with this horrible, selfish excuse for a man. Although you can't see it right now you have had a lucky escape, he sounds like an absolute piece of human garbage. The way he has treated both you and his other partner is disgusting. It hurts now, but you have to allow yourself time and space away from him and gradually you will emerge from this fog that you are i and you will see him for what he really is. Focus on your beautiful baby, because when she arrives your love for her will be a million times greater than any feelings you ever had for him. Go cold turkey on him, walk away - except perhaps for CM payments which he absolutely ought to pay since he is the one who insisted on not using condoms (the selfish arsehole could have given you an STI by insisting on that). It will take time to stop feeling as you do now, but you will get there - he has shown his true colours, you don't need that in your life.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 08/05/2019 12:30

You need to stop going after him.
He doesn't want you. That sucks but it is what it is.

He doesn't have to give any money prior to the baby.
Once the baby is born contact CMA and let them deal with it.

StrongLady19 · 08/05/2019 12:41

Thank you for your messages. Much appreciated. I am trying to do all the logical, practical and sensible things you have all mentioned. Sadly my tears still fall. Can’t wait to meet her. Life goes on.

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Ifigotherewillbedouble · 08/05/2019 12:42

You can do this. I don’t mean to be blunt and I feel very sorry that you are so upset, but you are not the first person who has been hurt and rejected by a man and you are not the first to raise a child on your own. YOU are the lucky one. That guy is a liar, user, manipulator - and you don’t have to deal with him. I feel more sorry for his partner. He was cheating on her, and she’s taken him back - he got another woman pregnant when she was pregnant! Seriously, you are in a much better position than him. When your baby is born apply to CMS for maintenance, they will pursue it on your behalf, you don’t need to contact him or hear from him again. He HAS to pay for his child whether he wants to or not so don’t worry about that aspect. It sounds like you have a lot of support around you - you will get stronger and you will be fine. You need to absolutely move on from this man - make that decision and stick to it!

Ceebs85 · 08/05/2019 12:44

You're not asking for money, it's not for you.

As others have said you need to just power on and get used to the fact that you're going to be a single parent rather than cheapening yourself by continuing to beg. You don't really need a man like this in your life, nor does your daughter!

He's not the man you thought he was. He put on a persona to woo you but the silent treatment and multiple break ups were massive red flags which you chose to ignore

Wishing you lots of luck. Spend time developing your friendships as you'll be needing lots of support.

MsPavlichenko · 08/05/2019 12:47

Thank God he is out of your life, and you can look to the future which will be so much better with him not in it.

Make sure he pays CS. Go through official channels, you are not asking for money, he should support his DC.

And in the future, if you want a condom used insist on it, don't ask. That was a sign of his selfish entitlement right at the start.

StrongLady19 · 08/05/2019 12:48

Thank you so much for trying to understand. My baby deserves the best. Sometimes that means a single parent home.

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redstapler · 08/05/2019 12:50

Pretty obvious from your post I'm afraid that he was going to be a crap dad. Go via the CMS and expect nothing more from him.

arethereanyleftatall · 08/05/2019 12:57

Red flags all over from the start. So, you had an affair with a married man. I think you need to stop all contact with either of them, delete them from every social media you have, and go through cms for maintenance. Good luck with your baby, children are marvellous.

StrongLady19 · 08/05/2019 13:04

Hello AreThereAny, he said he was single when we embarked on a relationship. Secondly they are engaged, not married. I blame myself totally. An adult is responsible for all outcomes in life. However, I have never and will never engage with a married man. In my culture married man are always looking for mistresses and I’ve turned every single one of them down. I’ve left them to get on with it. I wish them the best. Thank you for your advice.

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Justbreathing · 08/05/2019 13:10

Does his current partner even know you’re about to have a baby!?

Bluntness100 · 08/05/2019 13:25

I really don't understand why people have unprotected sex in relationships that are weeks old. This one started in September and was over by Xmas. It also temporary ended three times before this.

I think uou both need to accept responsibility for thr sheer stupidity. This relationship was a brief fling at best and it clearly didn't work as it ended the first time after only a month.

You decided to proceed with the pregnancy. You will need to raise your child alone. Go through the csa and do child maintenance formally. You don't need to ask him for money.

And then move on with all your lives.

Dishwashersaurous · 08/05/2019 13:29

Contact cms

Sever all social media links with him and her

Prepare to be a single parent.

Ensure that you double up on protection when you next embark on sexual relations with someone.

redstapler · 08/05/2019 13:35

He’d also complain about her being a bad mother and how her family asks him for money and that he felt stuck with her

this didn't raise red flags about how he would treat you if you got pregnant?

Barney061114 · 08/05/2019 13:47

I know how hard this is Stronglady19, trust me, I have been in a similar position.

I just focused on the baby. Not his baby, your baby. And having you as a single parent is better than having both of you, but a father who will no doubt make it perfectly clear that he doesn't want to be there.

If you are having to ask repeatedly for money for the baby, go to CMS and let them handle that for you, you don't need the extra grief.

I did, and would advise you to cut all contact with him/them. If his wife contacts you make it very clear, "congratulations he is yours, you won". I guarantee in the cold light of day, when this is over, he won't look like such a prize to her either.

I know how hard this is but I got two pieces of advice that really helped me when I was where you are. First one is "in two years time, things will look a lot different and you'll wonder why you spent so much time fretting in the first place" I know you're pregnancy is high risk but try to relax and enjoy being pregnant a little. I promise when the baby is born you will miss the little kicks and prods that baby is giving you now!!

Second piece of advice is to treat yourself like your own best friend. If your best friend was in this situation what would you tell her to do? I'm sure you wouldn't tell her to hang around and hope he'll change his mind? Or to put up with being verbally abused by him or wife? You would be telling her to buck up and get on - leave him to it. I promise his relationship with his wife is hanging by a thread and once you are out of the equation suddenly they will have to face that it's just the two of them and I would doubt their marriage will survive. But trust me, you shouldn't want him either. He has shown his true colors in how he's treated you and I'm sure you wouldn't want anyone to treat your daughter that way, let alone her father!!!

You are strong enough to do this alone and raise your daughter to be a strong powerful woman in her own right.

At some point he'll look back and realise what he's done and will be filled with regrets. At which time will be too late. But hell mend him.

Thats my 2p worth Smile

Hollowvictory · 08/05/2019 13:51

He was never single. You wanted to believe his lies. It was a massive mistake getting involved with this idiot.
You can do this by yourself, stay strong and look after yourself. Can you love back in with your parents?

ShatnersWig · 08/05/2019 14:14

I asked a few times sternly for him to use a condom but he insisted I use the pill instead

YOU are responsible for your own body and contraception. Why on earth would you shag someone so soon in a relationship without using condoms to ensure your own sexual health, let alone any pregnancy concerns.

There were so many red flags before it got to this stage. I'm sorry it's resulted the way it has, but you've just got to get on with it on your own now and be the best mum you can.

Complainingagain · 08/05/2019 14:15

You're better off without him! He's vile. His partner is NOT lucky to have him. She is stuck with him, she is an idiot for letting him behave how he does. I hope this doesn't hurt you but it sounds like you will be one of many people he cheats on her with. They won't be happy together, how can they be after all the lies and dishonesty? You and your baby have a chance at happiness because you don't have him in your lives which hurts now but is a blessing in disguise. What a disgusting human being. Block him and his partner on social media, do NOT contact him again. I know it's hard when you're desperate but try to conduct yourself with dignity at the moment because in the future you will never think 'i wish I phoned him crying and begged him to take me back more' but you will think 'i wish I didn't waste my time / embarrass myself / give him the satisfaction of knowing how sad I was '. For the sake of your future self, cut him out of your life EXCEPT to insist on child maintainance. You will be fine and in the future when you're with someone who loves and respects you and your baby you will be SO happy you found out what a disgusting selfish arsehole he is so early on and saved yourself and your baby a miserable life with him.