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To be feeling extremely annoyed today about judgemental women ref parenting

38 replies

TheLetterOfTheLawTheLetter · 06/05/2019 15:00

Why are women so catty?

I've read two threads on here now discussing parenting techniques (or rather criticising them).

I've been thinking about this a lot this week too, but this had pushed me over the edge in annoyance.

I feel that many mums seem to feel like they have to make excuses for what they do and I'm tired of it. Nobody owes anybody and apology or explanation.

Example 1: I was in a lift with my toddler ds and another woman with similar aged baby chomping on a big plain baguette. I smile at her. Mum quickly says "oh if she'll eat it, she can have it!" I wasn't asking for an explanation as to why her daughter wasnt eating vegetable crudites.

Example 2: at a stranger's house, her primary age kids were watching post school movie. She immediately jumped in and explained that they were just watching it as they needed to be kept occupied and contained in the one room for a little while.

I'm not judging these women at all, I'm just upset that they had to make what im sure were excuses, even if they were light hearted reflexive ones. (I really feel this us what was happening in both scenarios).

Here come my controversial theory..... if maternity leave and paternity leave were equal, as in some other countries (Denmark.... you can see groups of men hanging out having coffee with their babies) then there would be a whole lot less judgement and insecurity.

I shouldn't let it get to me but other recent experiences of cliquey, downright rude mums in baby groups had got me thinking that really, many of them are no different to a bunch of teenage school girls.

Cant we all just get along and support each other?!

OP posts:
Cheekyfeckery · 06/05/2019 17:32

You’ve given two examples of mothers explaining their actions and determined its down to women being catty. I don’t understand that.

Nicolastuffedone · 06/05/2019 17:34

I think it is a fact.

Nicolastuffedone · 06/05/2019 17:35

Oh, that was to SmileEachDay

Cheekyfeckery · 06/05/2019 17:36

Bullshit. It’s unachievable standards of what motherhood/women should be. Women don’t set them, it’s in the media, advertising, social media. And who runs it all?

Smash the patriarchy dear.

SmileEachDay · 06/05/2019 17:38

Nicholas

Ok, you think it is a fact. How would you go about proving it to be true?

InionEile · 06/05/2019 17:48

Mothers are judged more harshly than fathers in any society I have lived in at least so that is probably why women are more defensive about our parenting choices. Check out this piece I read recently in the Guardian.
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/05/i-love-the-dad-praise-i-get-but-what-about-mums?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Fathers who manage to feed their kids and change a nappy now and again are praised but mothers doing the same thing day in day out are no big deal. You have to be superhuman to get praise as a mother. And yes I think if parental leave was shared more often there would be less of a disparity between how we view mothers and fathers.

Not sure if I agree with you regarding women being bitchier than men. It depends on the women I think. Men are assholes to each other too but tend to compete more openly on earnings, cars, houses etc. Also if you are Danish, you might not be used to the British sense of humour which is more sarcastic / passive aggressive than most. If you don’t like that kind of humour you might find it upsetting.

Cheekyfeckery · 06/05/2019 17:49

The OP’s OP is buying into the ‘women are bitches’ narrative which makes them just as bad as the women they are complaining about.

Nicolastuffedone · 06/05/2019 17:53

How would I prove it’s true??? Em.....I know a lot of women?

Baloonphobia · 06/05/2019 17:54

Anecdotal evidence doesn't count as fact.

Nicolastuffedone · 06/05/2019 17:57

It’s my experience......

SmileEachDay · 06/05/2019 17:57

Em.....I know a lot of women?

I’m sure you do. Anecdotes =/= facts though.

True story: I don’t have a single female friend with blond hair. I could make a sweeping generalisation and claim that it is a fact that women always have dark hair. But I don’t, because that would be daft.

I think sweeping generalisations - particularly ones that rely on unhelpful stereotypes (in this case, “women are bitchy”) - are a shit idea and should be challenged. Especially when presented as “facts”

Nicolastuffedone · 06/05/2019 18:05

Ok.

nickyXjayno · 06/05/2019 19:50

Judging isn't a woman thing. It's a people thing. We all have opinions and judgement on things.
I was having a sandwhich earlier and my gramps asked why I was stuffing my face as it wasn't lunchtime. Was 12.30 so pretty much considered lunch. But he doesn't eat lunch till 2pm. Different strokes for different folks.
I think the issue we have is some people aren't confident in their way of running their lives and get defensive. It's becoming a sad state of affairs where we feel bad to be different from each other.
Me pointing out I do something different from another mum isn't me judging its just me talking about my life

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