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TimTheTatMan · 02/05/2019 12:01

So the other day I was shopping in my local lidl when I saw some fake Jaffa cakes which made me wonder if Jaffa cakes are cakes or biscuits? Leave your opinions below.

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floraloctopus · 02/05/2019 12:02

Neither, they are old chestnuts Grin

TheChippendenSpook · 02/05/2019 12:04

They're definitely cakes.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 02/05/2019 12:04

They are legally a cake.

In the United Kingdom, value added tax is payable on chocolate-covered biscuits, but not on chocolate-covered cakes.[11] McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes at a VAT tribunal in 1991, against the ruling that Jaffa cakes were biscuits due to their size and shape, and the fact that they were often eaten in place of biscuits.[12] McVities insisted that the product was a cake, and allegedly produced a giant Jaffa cake in court to illustrate its point.[12] The product was assessed on the following criteria:[13][14]

The product's name was regarded as a minor consideration.
The ingredients were regarded as similar to those of a cake, producing a thin cake-like batter rather than the thick dough of a biscuit.
The product's texture was regarded as being that of a sponge cake.
The product hardens when stale, in the manner of a cake.
A substantial part of the Jaffa cake, in terms of bulk and texture, is sponge.
In size, the Jaffa cake is more like a biscuit than a cake.
The product was generally displayed for sale alongside other biscuits, rather than with cakes.
The product is presented as a snack and eaten with the fingers, like a biscuit, rather than with a fork as a cake might be. The tribunal also considered that children would eat them in "a few mouthfuls", in the manner of a sweet.

The court found in favour of McVitie's and ruled that the product should be considered a cake, meaning that VAT is not paid on Jaffa cakes in the United Kingdom.[11][15]

Karigan195 · 02/05/2019 12:04

Wasn’t there a court case that determined this as they have different tax levels. I think it was decided they are a biscuit but have only the vaguest memory of reading about it

marvellousnightforamooncup · 02/05/2019 12:04

They are cakes because they go dry when stale. Biscuits go soft when old.

TheChippendenSpook · 02/05/2019 12:04

It has been proven. They had a VAT tribunal to prove it.

Karigan195 · 02/05/2019 12:05

There you are. Cake not biscuit :)

littlewoollypervert · 02/05/2019 12:05

But did you buy them? They are the nicest ones ever!

TimTheTatMan · 02/05/2019 12:07

Thanks

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NannyRed · 02/05/2019 12:35

Cakes.

Proven in court when tax went on biscuits but not on cakes.

Cakes go stale, biscuits go soft etc.... the base is sponge cake ffs! They’re cakes.

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