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Phrases and sayings you just don't understand

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Remieatscake · 01/05/2019 10:28

Such as:

'Life isn't a bed of roses you know''
Well, yes I think it is really because roses have thorns - the tough bits of life but they also have the beautiful petals of the flower - the good parts of life...overly simplistic but you get my drift.....

''Oh, I slept like a baby'' - surely this is meant to mean I slept badly but people seem to say it wen they have slept well. Not a mum (yet) but I am an overnight nanny amongst other things so know that babies do not generally sleep well!

Will think of some more I'm sure but in the mean time anyone else think of sayings that don't really make sense?

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Ronsters · 01/05/2019 14:40

She's no better than she ought to be. I always thought this was to do with someone being a bit snooty, when they were really no better than their neighbours, etc. Or a bit promiscuous. It doesn't really make much sense to me.
Also the term "salad days", assume it means when you are young and fresh?!

Jupiters · 01/05/2019 14:42

I heard "gilding the Lilly" for the first time the other day...

TheNoodlesIncident · 01/05/2019 14:46

@Callywalls - Swings and roundabouts is shorthand for "What we lose on the swings, we gain on the roundabouts". We will lose money on the swings but make it back on the roundabouts (fairground analogy?)

I guess it's similar to supermarkets having an item as a loss leader so they will lose money on that item, but it will draw customers in and the supermarket will make more from the additional items they will then buy.

RedSheep73 · 01/05/2019 14:50

'Wouldn't say boo to a goose' always puzzled me...I was the shyest of children but saying boo to a goose was no big deal, it was talking to people that was the problem...

Phineyj · 01/05/2019 14:55

Salad days is a quote from Shakespeare

Phineyj · 01/05/2019 14:56

I teach Economics. Do not under any circumstances look up 'basket case' (sometimes used in headlines about inflation). Sad

Yoursilentface · 01/05/2019 14:56

I don't understand why 'Three sheets to the wind" means drunk.

Also don't understand why we say butter wouldn't melt to babies if it means cool. Or why we say bless your cotton socks.

Phineyj · 01/05/2019 15:03

I think three sheets to the wind is a naval expression = a ship under sail going very fast/uncontrollably

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:07

no better than she ought to be

no better than (one) should be
Immoral or perverse, especially having a tendency toward sexual promiscuity. Typically said of a woman. The town is still quite conservative and closed-minded, and they think a woman whose boyfriend spends the night is no better than she should be.
See also: better, no, should

no better than you should (or ought to) be regarded as sexually promiscuous or of doubtful moral character.
This phrase dates back to the early 17th century. Used typically of a woman, it is now rather dated.
1998 Spectator ‘She's no better than she ought to be.’ (British mothers of my generation… often used that enigmatic phrase. They would use it about female neighbours of whom they disapproved, or women in low-cut dresses on television.)

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:08

three sheets to the wind

Related to three sheets to the wind: The whole nine yards
three sheets to the wind
Severely intoxicated from alcohol, to the point of finding control of one's actions or coordination difficult. Taken most likely from nautical terminology, where a "sheet" is the rope that controls the sails of a tall ship; if several sheets are loose or mishandled, the boat's movement becomes unsteady and difficult to control, like that of a drunk person.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:09

salad days

alad days
A youthful, carefree time of innocence and inexperience. The phrase comes from a line in Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra: "My salad days, when I was green in judgment, cold in blood." Ah, to be in love during your salad days, such blissful and carefree times. Whenever I ask my grandfather the meaning of a word I hear on TV, he always laughs and says he'll tell me when I'm no longer in my salad days.

lookingelsewhere · 01/05/2019 15:10

@Remieatscake

It's a very sad story about a little girl who was found murdered Sad in 1867.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:10

boo to a goose

Boo to a goose
Say boo to a goose: It's just a country proverb, perfectly clear to anyone who is familiar with geese, as in earlier centuries virtually all rural European people would have been. Anybody who shouts loudly and firmly at geese can intimidate them; indeed minding geese was traditionally a job for small girls.

Yoursilentface · 01/05/2019 15:10

"he's a bugger up the back"

Is this the same as pain in the arse

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:12

fake it till you make it

"Fake it till you make it" (frequently 'til you make it or until you make it) is an English aphorism which suggests that by imitating confidence, competence, and an optimistic mindset, a person can realize those qualities in their real life.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:14

swings and roundabouts is a poem - last line is the pertinent bit

ROUNDABOUTS AND SWINGS

It was early last September nigh to Framlin’am-on-Sea,
An’ ’twas Fair-day come to-morrow, an’ the time was after tea,
An’ I met a painted caravan adown a dusty lane,
A Pharaoh with his waggons comin’ jolt an’ creak an’ strain;
A cheery cove an’ sunburnt, bold o’ eye and wrinkled up,
An’ beside him on the splashboard sat a brindled tarrier pup,
An’ a lurcher wise as Solomon an’ lean as fiddle-strings
Was joggin’ in the dust along ‘is roundabouts and swings.

‘Goo’-day,’ said ‘e; ‘Goo’-day,’ said I; ‘an’ ‘ow d’you find things go,
An’ what’s the chance o’ millions when you runs a travellin’ show?’
‘I find,’ said ‘e, ‘things very much as ‘ow I’ve always found,
For mostly they goes up and down or else goes round and round.’
Said ‘e, ‘The job’s the very spit o’ what it always were,
It’s bread and bacon mostly when the dog don’t catch a ‘are;
But lookin’ at it broad, an’ while it ain’t no merchant king’s,
What’s lost upon the roundabouts we pulls up on the swings!’

‘Goo’ luck,’ said ‘e; ‘Goo’ luck,’ said I; ‘you’ve put it past a doubt;
An’ keep that lurcher on the road, the gamekeepers is out;’
‘E thumped upon the footboard an’ ‘e lumbered on again
To meet a gold-dust sunset down the owl-light in the lane;
An’ the moon she climbed the ‘azels, while a night-jar seemed to spin
That Pharaoh’s wisdom o’er again, ‘is sooth of lose-and-win;
For ‘up an’ down an’ round,’ said ‘e, ‘goes all appointed things,
An’ losses on the roundabouts means profits on the swings!’

downcasteyes · 01/05/2019 15:14

Salad days is explained in the quote

My salad days
When I was green in judgement,* cold in blood^

  • i.e. inexperienced ^ i.e. raw but also perhaps calculating, Cleopatra is talking back to the time when she was shagging Julius Caesar, whose backing she needed, in contrast with her love for Mark Anthony in the present.
IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 15:18

gid the lily - Shakespeare again

What's the meaning of the phrase 'Gild the lily'? To apply unnecessary ornament - to over embellish.

Therefore, to be possess'd with double pomp,
To guard a title that was rich before,
To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,
To throw a perfume on the violet,
To smooth the ice, or add another hue
Unto the rainbow, or with taper-light
To seek the beauteous eye of heaven to garnish,
Is wasteful and ridiculous excess.

The context of that speech in the play is King John's satisfaction with his second coronation - "Here once again we sit, once again crown'd". His courtiers aren't so sure, calling the crowning 'superfluous'. The use of Shakespeare's text to denote unnecessary ornamentation is fairly straightforward.

TooManyPaws · 01/05/2019 15:18

OP, the Wikipedia page on Fanny Adams is explanatory and not too gory. Interestingly, Sweet Fanny Adams is the original phrase and not a polite version of a rude one.

Callywalls · 01/05/2019 15:23

@Yoursilentface - yes, that would make sense, she said it about the dog when he had been naughty - I have googled it and apparently it is a Brummie saying, although my nan was Irish/Mancunian so God knows where she learnt it!!

Sweetpea55 · 01/05/2019 15:27

Not backward at coming forward

itssquidstella · 01/05/2019 15:39

@lookingelsewhere apologies if this has been answered but I think it relates to the story of the little boy who stuck his finger in the dyke when he should have gone to inform the townspeople that there was a leak. Don't sit on a problem, deal with it.

Sashkin · 01/05/2019 15:40

Not backward at coming forward

That’s just a pun. Not backward (ie slow, mentally disabled) at coming forward (volunteering, pushing yourself into the limelight, advancing yourself).

Littlecaf · 01/05/2019 15:40

Phineyj

Just looked up basket case and now I’m sad. Understandably they went bonkers.

lookingelsewhere · 01/05/2019 15:40

@itssquidstella Thanks! I remember the little boy and the dyke story. That would fit for sure.

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