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To think this is fraud?

11 replies

sotiredofmyhousebuilder · 30/04/2019 18:25

NC for this post. When we bought our house from our builder/developer we were ask to sign several forms as part of the contract which they completed and then asked us to sign. These forms related to various details of the purchase. The builder kept the originals but provided us with a copies when we asked at the time. We have found out that they changed at least one of the forms after we signed it. It is very clear that the form has been changed and it now has different information on it to the copy we signed and were given (obviously). AIBU in thinking that this is fraud?

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TixieLix · 30/04/2019 18:34

How do you know this has happened OP? Have you since seen the original? What sort of info have they changed?

LucyAutumn · 30/04/2019 18:41

Do you think they are trying to cover something up?

sotiredofmyhousebuilder · 30/04/2019 18:48

It's to do with some upgrades that we paid for, for example oak doors. They have fitted cheap, hollow ones. A new employee said the hollow doors were right because that was what we signed for. We asked her to send us a copy of the document that she was referring to. The document arrived with our signatures at the bottom but the contents of the document had been changed. She's right. Her copy refers to the cheap ones but ours gives the oak specification.

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DollyPomPoms · 30/04/2019 18:53

Speak to your Solicitor/Conveyancer who would have been provided with a copy of the reservation form by the developer when you instructed them.

TheTrollFairy · 30/04/2019 18:54

Not sure about fraud but it’s a shitty thing to do as you would have been charged for oak doors!

sotiredofmyhousebuilder · 30/04/2019 18:59

Unfortunately it's a separate sheet to the reservation form. This document did not form part of the pack that was sent over to the Solicitor. We have shown our solicitor. He wants to refer us to his litigation department. DollyPomPoms are you suggesting that this document should have been included in the pack that went to the solicitor because it wasn't?

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sotiredofmyhousebuilder · 30/04/2019 19:02

Yes @TheTrollFairy It is absolutely a shitty thing to do and then to deny that they have done it, beggars belief.

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oopslateagain · 30/04/2019 19:03

It's forgery. They have forged the contract with the intent to defraud you. You're getting less value than the original contract. Speak to a solicitor. They have to honour the original contract - either make good whatever changes they have made, or pay you the difference between the value of what was agreed, and the value of what you actually received.

sotiredofmyhousebuilder · 30/04/2019 19:09

@oopslateagain Thank you! That's a brilliant way of putting it. That is exactly what they have done. I couldn't think of the right phrase and fraud didn't seem quite right (although there is very much an element of fraud involved).

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DollyPomPoms · 01/05/2019 08:11

Not in the contract pack no, but I always receive a copy of the reservation form at the outset of the transaction. This is in place of you usual ‘memorandum of sale’ that would be issued by an estate agent. This lists the fittings that you have chosen. That’s the way it works at my firm anyway, S.E England.

MyRankIsSuperintendent · 01/05/2019 08:31

I had this with an estate agent I instructed who changed the % I had negotiated with him.

I wrote a strongly worded email saying it had been (clearly and inexpertly thankfully) altered and I would withdraw the instruction unless it was changed. It was changed.

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