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Why is depression the answer to everything on MN?

43 replies

ssd · 30/04/2019 09:05

On just about any thread asking advice, someone always comes along with 'he, she, it may have depression, have you considered it?'.. Every bloody time.
It's like a one size fits all on here.

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GreytExpectations · 30/04/2019 10:19

self diagnosed allergies esp when the person goes onto eat the 'wrong' food with no obvious ill effects 'oh, it comes and goes' attitude.

To be fair, that sounds like a mild food intolerance, which is possible and a lot of people have it. I.E. dairy can cause some people a bit of stomach upset but if they have it in small quantities then they would be OK but if they had a lot then they could have an upset stomach. Secondly, they do get self diagnosed because the NHS doesn't fund consultant dietitian appointments unless its severe or an allergy. You have to figure out by yourself if you have an intolerance by experimenting.

Food intolerance's can be very uncomfortable. Just because they aren't as serious as an allergy, doesn't mean they should be dismissed.

Robertsmithdoesmyhair · 30/04/2019 10:24

Because MN is rife with armchair therapists?! Confused

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 30/04/2019 10:37

Greyt sounds like your example isn't what we are talking about as your example is someone reacting excessively to the ups and downs of normal life.

I think if a person is depressed for years, despite an otherwise normal/good life, and it doesn't improve in good times etc then that is an issue. We are not suggesting clinical depression doesn't exist, just that perhaps at times short term episodes triggered by normal shit parts of life may be overdiagnosed.

TheCanterburyWhales · 30/04/2019 10:45

Rules of MN
Any child having a tantrum has SN
Any person over the age of about 48 who calls anybody out on their behaviour is a) an old bag b) has dementia (I'm an A)
Any child who is ruining the progress of their class has a parent who suddenly dripfeeds 20 pages in that they think the child has undiagnosed SN
MILs are all narcissists
Boy children are "typical boys who like a bit of rough and tumble" and are "no angel"
Anybody who has had their snout in the trough all weekend (like me after a 3 day wedding this weekend) and feels a bit of a lardbucketbloatyarse has IBS and

All of the above (probably) need a diagnosis of fibro and a spa day and everything would be Pollyanna again.

GreytExpectations · 30/04/2019 10:45

reacting excessively to the ups and downs of normal life.

He isnt "reacting excessively" he is diagnosed with clinical depression, which is classed as an actual illness same as any physical one- what an insensitive thing to say!

IsYourGoogleBroken · 30/04/2019 10:48

www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-depression/causes/

There's no single cause of depression. It can occur for a variety of reasons and it has many different triggers.

For some people, an upsetting or stressful life event, such as bereavement, divorce, illness, redundancy and job or money worries, can be the cause.

Different causes can often combine to trigger depression. For example, you may feel low after being ill and then experience a traumatic event, such as a bereavement, which brings on depression.

People often talk about a "downward spiral" of events that leads to depression. For example, if your relationship with your partner breaks down, you're likely to feel low, you may stop seeing friends and family and you may start drinking more. All of this can make you feel worse and trigger depression.

Some studies have also suggested that you're more likely to get depression as you get older, and that it's more common in people who live in difficult social and economic circumstances.

TheCanterburyWhales · 30/04/2019 10:59

And I agree 100% that the armchair Dr Google's do a great disservice to real sufferers of depression.
My friend's husband has depression and it is debilitating for an entire family.

GreytExpectations · 30/04/2019 11:02

There's no single cause of depression. It can occur for a variety of reasons and it has many different triggers.

Thank you! Finally, someone understands the point i'm trying to make.

teyem · 30/04/2019 11:07

It does feel like the gap between your best life and depression on Mumsnet is considered fractional.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/04/2019 11:11

I thought clinical depression was when you feel very down without a cause no,that's not true,think of post natal depression for example.

lborgia · 30/04/2019 11:14

I think, OP, you have to acknowledge that those posting are more likely to suffer from depression because by definition they have got to a point where they can't see the woods for the trees, and are reaching out for ideas/ ways to deal with their situation.

For every person on here with a long list of awful things happening, and feeling frozen, bleak, lost, the will be many with a similar list of woes who are just "getting on with it"

Whether it is genetic predisposition, or a lack of coping skills, there are plenty of people who get seriously depressed in situations that others would not find the same.

Therefore, it is worth mentioning, ticking off the list, because you could try any amount of brisk walks, chucking out oafish partners, leaving stressful jobs, when it would actually be useful to know whether your RESPONSE to the the situation is within the normal range, or more severe.

Equally, I think there have always been Many people with narcissism, depression, ASD etc, who have not been diagnosed as such, and therefore have had miserable lives/ miserable loved ones. It's a bit like saying, " well we didn't have seat belts and we were fine ". Yes, because you're not the ones that died.

Just because it doesn't seem relevant to you, doesn't mean it's not relevant, and life changing, to get a clue to why life might be extra hard shit.

MereDintofPandiculation · 30/04/2019 11:15

It's just a suggestion. Surely it's better to consider all alternatives? Especially since MN posters are so quick to condemn any infraction of social codes.

Chouetted · 30/04/2019 11:22

It's a suggestion. Both ASD and depression can be massively difficult to recognise, and ASD in particular is underdiagnosed in adults for historical reasons.

It's no more batshit than suggesting the OP check their vitamin D levels if they describe feeling crappy with achy muscles.

CaptainButtock · 30/04/2019 12:40

There was a psychiatrist writing in the guardian a while ago highlighting exactly this.
He said he was getting fed up of people coming to him for treatment for 'depression', only to find out they work 60 hours a week as a taxi driver, their wife works nights at Tescos so they don't really see each other, they're barely keeping a roof over their heads, no holidays etc...
He calls it 'shit life syndrome' Sad (as opposed to depression)

DontVisitMe · 30/04/2019 13:09

Because people on MN don't realise what actual depression or anxiety really feels like. It really minimizes serious mental illness for those who genuinely suffer.

KC225 · 30/04/2019 13:18

I hate when a poster comes on and says - I refuse to talk to anyone, answer the door, refuse have playdates or help baby ducks across the road but no one includes me.

Everyone quite rightly says you have been rude and your behaviour is cold. Then on page 3 the poster comes on with 'But I have anxiety'. Oh okay well that's alright then, carry on.

DontVisitMe · 30/04/2019 13:23

What's your point, KC225?

SihtricsHorseWitnere · 30/04/2019 13:24

YANBU. Or anxiety, or autism, or dementia. Along with 'Get them to a GP!' as if you can force an adult to go to GP, who is actually the wizard Gandalf with his magic staff.

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