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To ask why everything is so f**kin' expensive?!

321 replies

MummyStruggles · 29/04/2019 11:34

Just that really?

And, also, there's ALWAYS "something" that needs to be bought or replenished i.e new pillows and duvets for the whole household! Grrrr!

Meant to be a lighthearted thread but you know, I get really bloody stressed about it!

Anyone else?

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OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 29/04/2019 14:20

I hear you, OP. I got my arse handed to me on a plate on here once, years ago (name-change) when I asked how others managed with the constant demands for money. We're not exactly on the bread-line and my point was that if we were struggling (or at least wincing), how did those on low incomes manage.
I was told I was being too extravagant (by going to the dentist for a filling), stealth-boasting and that I should cut my own and the family's hair if I was so broke. Hmm

FriarTuck · 29/04/2019 14:22

lots and lots of things are cheaply-made and not designed to last more than about five minutes
This ^^.
DD's pillows are sweat stained
Wash them! Regularly!

MummyStruggles · 29/04/2019 14:23

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess It's not been too bad actually Wink and I was probably having a bit of a "woe is me" morning today after checking my bank account and see that I have £200 left, after bills are paid. So, yes, the kids will have to wait for new pillows and duvets. Also, maybe I shouldn't have gone out with hubby on Friday night either - ooops!

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MrsBAF · 29/04/2019 14:32

I like the boots theory. Vax and Henry failed me. But there's some luck, you can't always make the right call or have all the info to decide between the £10 or £30 or £100 option. All may wear out.
For example, second hand cars. my £800 old banger lasted me longer than the £2k and more prestigious make car that cost another £2k to pass Mots..

Lougle · 29/04/2019 14:34

@downcasteyes moneyweek.com/merryns-blog/the-difference-between-cpi-and-rpi-and-why-it-matters-55018/ this article might help.

RussellSprout · 29/04/2019 14:35

I'm sure there is someone in all these factories producing hoovers and white goods whose job it is to design the machines to last just long enough that the manufacturer/brand doesn't get a bad name, but not so long that they never get repeat custom. It must be a very fine balancing act!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/04/2019 14:37

Our pillows are ancient, feather/feather and down, but I wash and tumble dry them regularly and they're fine.

I don't understand bloodstains not coming out of white sheets. A soak in cold water and bio detergent should get most out, and assuming they're cotton, bleach should do the rest.

I once bleached a major (mortifying) period leak out of some favourite white cotton trousers. Worked fine.

As for mattresses, our old one had been expensive but it lasted far longer than 8 years. Having said that, after reading in detail about dust mites in Bill Bryson's 'A Short History Of Nearly Everything' , the first thing I did was vacuum the mattress really thoroughly. (And wash the pillows!) It was astonishing how much weird yellow dust came out - a different colour from anything else I'd ever seen.

I can only assume it was years of accumulated dust mite poo, maybe mixed up with a few billion of their minute corpses - unless they eat each other's corpses, of course.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/04/2019 14:39

I find it really irritating that "built-in obsolescence" is even a thing now. Makes me so angry!

My parents managed to hold on to their first fridge for over 35 years - since then, have had to change them far more often. Ditto washing machines etc.

Many things in Australia are considerably more expensive than in the UK too, things like linens especially (manchester, it's called here!). I find it quite painful having to buy new ones!

Cherylshaw · 29/04/2019 14:43

I think some places take the piss aswell, we went for the weekend to Edinburgh and in one of the cafes we went to i asked for 2 fresh orange juices for the kids, wasn't until i was paying the bill i saw that they were £7 each! Bloody £7 for an orange juice!!! The whole trip was a bloody strain on the bank.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 29/04/2019 14:44

I can only assume it was years of accumulated dust mite poo, maybe mixed up with a few billion of their minute corpses - unless they eat each other's corpses, of course.

This would be a novel "thought for the day" for Radio 4 to consider...

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 29/04/2019 14:44

Sometimes buying cheap doesn't mean poor quality - my £35 vacuum cleaner from Argos has lasted longer than some of the expensive ones I've owned in the past. And it isn't too heavy to carry up the stairs!
I think price paid is no longer any real indicator of quality (unless you are talking about haute couture type prices) or ethical production.
I feel like I'm constantly in the supermarket and the amount of food in each packet/jar/tin is shrinking. Multipacks are now 5 in a box, not 6 for example. My council tax has gone up by £13 pcm. Schools are constantly needing trips to be paid for and kids seem to always need new clothes and shoes.
Despite a good income I cannot afford to buy new windows for my house, or replace the kitchen and bathroom (which both desperately need it) or get new fence panels in the garden (again, desperately needed). I cannot afford a car (DH has a work one) and I am not blowing all the money on holidays and handbags.
I do have sky and Netflix and the kids do have nice phones, but I feel there has to be something nice in everyday life and these things are important to my children. The cost of them is low compared to the costs of mortgage and tax and just living!

gotmychocolateimgood · 29/04/2019 14:45

Found out today my shower has leaked into the wall and ruined the edge of the carpet in the bedroom. Arrrgh

Jinglejanglefish · 29/04/2019 14:45

Wait, you can machine wash pillows?

LakieLady · 29/04/2019 14:45

Pillows and duvets should last years and years and years.

I've just replaced the duvet I bought when I first got together with my ex in 1998. Admittedly, it looked pretty grotty when it was out of its cover (despite washing it every year or so). Iirc, it was around £80 new and I replaced it with a £25 one from Aldi.

I replace pillows every couple of years though.

TheABC · 29/04/2019 14:46

We are fortunate to be able to budget and have a bit left over after bills. It's got to the point that we "expect" the unforeseen every month and just put the cash aside. As a rule of thumb, appliances will last 3 years and be nursed along for five, kids need some new shoes or wardrobe change every 6 weeks and if nothing does go wrong, we spend it on the house (we are slowly doing it up). When an expensive replacement is needed, we always check out the reviews and try to get the next step up in quality, rather then rely on brand name.

Like the rest of you, I have no scruples about using second hand clothes, end date food, reheeling boots and recycling everything where possible. I think it's the basics - especially shelter - that are squeezing us as a community as they are things you just can't opt out of.

SihtricsHorseWitnere · 29/04/2019 14:46

Just had to put a car in for MOT. Sobs! £500 later it passes but it will need new tyres by next year, so there goes another £500 or so.

ChopinIn10Minuets · 29/04/2019 14:48

Choice is dizzying

Yes, sofagirl, but it's not the sort of choice that means anything. It's like the 'choice' of 115 different pasta shapes when actually you don't want pasta at all but spelt sourdough bread, or sweet potatoes. There's something about that kind of 'choice' that is massively stressful.

MummyStruggles · 29/04/2019 14:53

Our council tax has gone up by £8 a month and my sky subscription has just increased also. We've decided to cancel Sky and when I called up to do so, because I'm "still in contract", it'll cost me £64 for the privilege. I was told I have to give them 31 days notice, which means that they'll take the next payment out of £120 AND expect another payment of £64 on top of that.

I also had no idea you could wash pillows and duvets. Actually machine wash them??? Why did I not know this?

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RosaWaiting · 29/04/2019 14:54

"Despite a good income I cannot afford to buy new windows for my house, or replace the kitchen and bathroom (which both desperately need it)"

again wondering what "need" means. The "kitchen" or hob in my flat is, I think, as old as the flat, which means 30 years. Same with the bathroom.

The kitchen and bathroom at my parents house is probably the same age. Nothing's broken. It all works. Actually the kitchen there looks like it was put in recently...this makes me think how crap the boots example is. Some of it is sheer dumb luck. Cost paid really doesn't reflect quality a lot of the time.

Meanwhile, I've realised my mattress is 15 years old. Doesn't seem any heavier to turn it so I am sceptical about the weight gain! Grin

Sofagirl · 29/04/2019 14:58

@ChopinIn10Minuets

Yes precisely. It is dizzying and not always necessary.

CielBleuEtNuages · 29/04/2019 14:58

Yes duvets and pillows can be machine washed.

DH is horribly sweaty but rolls himself up in his duvet. We took his yellow, sinky duvet to the launderette. 45 minutes later it was beautifully white and smelt lovely.

I swear by proper thick pillow protectors, regularly washed.

And the single duvets can fit in our washing machine. Useful when a child is sick!

JessieMcJessie · 29/04/2019 15:07

For big duvets it’s better to get a laundrette to do it as a service wash as domestic machines are not usually big enough, especially the dryers. Most have “duvets washed here” signs in the window.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 29/04/2019 15:07

Kitchen is falling apart Rosa. It was bodged by the previous owner of my house and I've been nursing it along for 11 years. It's things like the built in oven not being installed with enough space around it so the heat warps the cupboards and causes condensation which leaks onto the chipboard and rots it. But I have nowhere to move it to because it's built in. I had to get the hob rewired because it was unsafe. The sink is in the wrong place with the draining board sunk into the unit so it doesn't drain into the sink. It really does need gutting, I'm not just being picky. Bathroom was also bodged - loo and sink are fine but tiling all needs replacing.
I've done the things to make the house safe, like updating circuit boards and replacing hot water tank but the house just looks so scruffy and the amount of money needed to make it right is just too much.

WombatChocolate · 29/04/2019 15:10

If income is low in relation to the number of people and needs, then things will be a struggle.

I think there are 2 categories of people who have a struggle pretty much every month. There are those whose income is just exceedingly low and insufficient however carefully they budget. Even when they don't have the heating on or consider replacing things like pillows (because the thought of having £5 spare to spend is just beyond their budget to even consider it) by the end of the month or week they are still struggling to buy the most basic food or hygiene products or pay for their energy or rent. If they are choosing between food or heat and haven't bought other stuff, income is just simply insufficient and all kinds of careful budgeting whilst helping won't remove that poverty.

There is also the situation of struggling due to poor budgeting and judgements about what needs to be bought. Lots of people have a reasonable if not high income and really struggle. As said, one off expenses come along every month - they might differ each month and one month be shoes and the next be a Hoover, but you can guarantee there will be something and so because of this they have to be built in as regular expenditure. An amount has to be allowed for those which are essential expenditure before money is given to other luxuries.

So Op, would it help to come up with a figure for these monthly expenditures which always crop up and incorporate them in into your budget. It might mean you have to take something else out or save somewhere - can you have a cheaper phone or save on utility bills or go without a holiday or cut out some luxuries like takeaways? This might sound dull and a bit miserable, but if you have £X in the budget each month for necessary miscellaneous expenditure then you won't have this stress every month. Do it this way round with the budgeted money being for necessaries and left overs for luxuries, not luxuries coming out first before the necessary one-offs which as you say, always occur.

And then it also helps to develop an attitude that as you get to the end of the month, everything doesn't need spending. So if you find there is £100 left, that doesn't t mean buy another takeaway or look round for what you might replace, when the existing things are perfectly good, but keep that money and build up a reserve. Perhaps if you put £200 in your budget for miscellaneous necessitates and it comes to the end of the month you could have a policy that if there is still more than £150 in that account, you can spend any excess over £150 but won't spend further into it? Would that help?

Looking really closely at budget helps a lot. Therecarevloadsnof threads on MN where people cut the cost of their food shop by looking at it closely. Working out where the money goes really helps. Lots of people spend a big chunk on takeaways or on nights out or on clothes or make-up or a hobby or on regularly replacing household items which they fancy a new one of, but which the existing ones whilst not perhaps the latest version are fine. This is often the case with clothing and shoes. It is partly about a mindset and about making things last a bit longer and not thinking new is always needed - so yes to bleaching the sheets or getting the carpet cleaned rather than replaced and to just keeping the storage unit you don't like rather than lusting after a new one because you saw one you liked. Of course things that break might not be repairable and need replacing like shoes or washing machines perhaps, but today we often do replace when we don't need to and could think about that a bit more as a way to save money.

Children's attitude to money can also be a real drain as hey get older. If your kids develop the idea that their worth and value is in the labels they wear or the amount if new shoes they have, they probably will pester you and make you feel like you're selling them short by saying no and your own worth starts to be related to the material stuff you provide for them. I know it's hard if you're very hard up, but working on their attitudes to stuff helps. Valuing doing well at school or being kind or developing a hobby or skill means the trainers you wear cease to be so important.

If income is low, getting into that position where you can build into the monthly budget an amount for the unavoidable one-offs and then building up the surplus that allows you to sleep at night is hard. Quite how hard really depends on your income, but many people can get into A much stronger position if they really want to. Visit someone like a debt or budget organiser (free) who will non-judgementally look at your budget with you and help you reshape it. Often the reason people struggle is because of debt repayments being outbid control - the advisers can help sort that out too which brings massive relief for lots of people.

I'd say, it's easy to mason and do nothing and find yourself in the same position every month. It probably sounds preachy but actually taking some action can turn things round and make a massive difference and make your whole life better. Money worries grind people down and suck the joy out of life and there's nothing like seeing someone feel unburdened in this area, often with some fairly simple changes.

Op, would you be willing to go and see someone to see if there are any adjustments you could make which might just remove this horrible monthly feeling? Other people too who feel trapped in the same way, it might be possible for you too.

bigKiteFlying · 29/04/2019 15:13

I also had no idea you could wash pillows and duvets. Actually machine wash them??? Why did I not know this?

We have a 9Kg washing machine - so can do our duvets in there - has it's own cycle.