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to think that all women should read this article

55 replies

brizzlemint · 27/04/2019 17:42

humanparts.medium.com/the-problem-with-how-we-talk-about-our-bodies-443fbc36875e

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goodwinter · 27/04/2019 19:02

We are now both entrenched and wounded, struggling to move past our own body trauma to have a more concrete conversation.

Good god.

ReleaseTheBats · 27/04/2019 19:09

The article is absolute drivel.

Ikeameatballs · 27/04/2019 19:17

I found the article waffling and pointless. Language exists to describe weight but weight is surely only the most important thing if you are either anorexic or morbidly obese. For the rest of us it has varying importance at varying times.

acquiescence · 27/04/2019 19:19

YABU asking this.

It’s a terrible article which seeks to legitimatise being morbidly obese which is having a devastating impact on the NHS. The vast majority of overweight people could take action and save their health and vital and precious NHS funds that are being spent on so many preventable conditions. This article is self pitying, avoiding responsibility and agency, and is inciting people to put their health at risk.

AntennaReborn · 27/04/2019 19:28

@gairytoes describing yourself as 'normal and healthy' is completely subjective and are not states reserved for those weighing between 7 and 10 stones

It's not subjective, and there are other indicators than weight. I weigh 72kg (so over 11st) but my body fat is low enough that I can see most of my abs, and have overall good muscle definition.

I do class myself as being at a normal, healthy weight, even though I fall outside of your bracket.

Genuinely curious about what made you pick this bracket?

RedDogsBeg · 27/04/2019 19:31

What a pile of pointless drivel. Yet more privilege and spectrum clap-trap, with an added dose of pity party and most oppressed narrative.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 27/04/2019 19:52

I'm size 26 and I'm not under served or undervalued. I make damn sure of it. I don't give shit out, so I won't take it back.
If size 12 is plus size what is a healthy weight. When bones are sticking out. Its small wonder young girls and of course boys are probe to anorexia/bulimia.

UCOforAC12 · 27/04/2019 19:55

I use BMI terms because they are universal. 'Straight size' has no meaning in the UK. Feel free to disagree with me about BMI because Olympic rowers/rugby players etc are categorised as overweight because of their muscle:fat ratio but the general population does not have the same muscle:fat conundrum as the rare outliers.

to think that all women should read this article
Jinglejanglefish · 27/04/2019 19:55

Normal does not necessarily mean a specific size or weight. I would class a normal weight as being able to to function in day to day life without your size having an impact. So buy clothes in high street shops, walk and get around without your weight causing issues, be able to get out of your car in a parking space, sit in a plane seat etc.

breakfastpizza · 27/04/2019 19:58

I say this as someone who has previously been in the obese category and is now healthy BMI weight: this is why I can't get behind fat activism. It's always someone else who has to change. It's someone else's job to accommodate them. There's no internal reflection. No requirement for them to change themselves in any way.

350 lbs is massively unhealthy. No wonder a GP can't see beyond it. This girl needs to look inside and take care of herself before she lashes out at others.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 27/04/2019 19:59

Oh good lord. Can we please just stop with the relentless identity politics bollocks? Defining ourselves by ever reducing terms as each one becomes offensive or triggering or privileged.

Morbidly obese is a clinical term, not a value judgemtb designed to make you feel bad. 350lbs is a serious weight issue.

I used to weigh 270lbs by the way. I now weigh 175lbs and decreasing. I am not treated any differently by anyone, but I'm much happier and much, much healthier. Yes, I have chronic health issues my weight didn't cause and won't cure. But not lugging round 95 more pounds every minute of every day makes an enormous difference.

PickAChew · 27/04/2019 20:09

Same as breakfastpizza

I've been underweight. I have been obese. I was really unhealthy when I was obese and did my joints a lot of damage.

I have no tolerance for the suggestion that being fat is benign and harmless and that someone of 350lb should be treated as if they have the same medical risks as someone of 150lb, which is still overweight for any woman under 5'5" but looks very different and is physiologically very different.

isseywithcats · 27/04/2019 20:18

ive just done the bmi chart and at 5ft 6 and 9 stone size ten im just into normal weight range and people ask me how i stay so skinny so using the bmi chart isnt always accurate and i hate it when people say i hate you cos your skinny esecially people i dont know i dont hate anyone whatever size they are

Dinosforall · 27/04/2019 20:20

awlook Depending on your build it is perfectly possible to be within your healthy bmi range and have visible bones.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 27/04/2019 20:22

I thought the article was silly and annoying. No idea why you thought everyone would love it.

Dinosforall · 27/04/2019 20:24

issey well then the problem isn't that you are too skinny, it is that some people can't tell what a healthy weight looks like.

isseywithcats · 27/04/2019 20:27

exactly im not skinny im slim but maybe because i have longer legs and a shorter body ratio i look slimmer than i am

RosaWaiting · 27/04/2019 20:30

OP why did you think it was important for people to read this please?

InspectorClouseauMNdivision · 27/04/2019 20:45

I couldn't finish reading it.
I am size 20 and I disagree with the part I read. I don't like how it's written.
Not really helping to feed the love towards fat people imho..... If anything, the opposite.

Oh and yeah. Obviously there will be jobs which a person that size may not be able to do at all so job search must be difficult.
And not just do... Let's face it, if my job was on 7th floor and lift broke, I can't get to work without needing a shower and a nap. I would probs just call in sick tbh... 🙈

Doggydoggydoggy · 27/04/2019 20:47

I can’t stand this drive to recognise fat as a legitimate body shape or ‘curvy’ or some other bollocks and this ludicrous idea of health that goes with it.

I am an obese woman myself and whilst I definately do not think anyone should be deliberately upsetting others about their weight, making nasty jokes etc this fat acceptance has got to stop.

It is very dangerous.
You are not ‘curvy’, it’s not your ‘shape’, you are overweight and it is unhealthy.
Even if you feel healthy it is putting you at risk of all sorts of diseases.

brizzlemint · 27/04/2019 20:47

As I said earlier, for this reason:

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brizzlemint · 27/04/2019 20:48

I just think it's important to consider the issue from all sides, I don't think this article is completely right but it is food for thought.

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RosaWaiting · 27/04/2019 20:51

OP, sorry, it might be my ancient computer, but if there is an image or something next to "for this reason" then I can't see it. Oh well, never mind.

I don't even see what issue is being considered tbh. If it's a long way of saying "be diplomatic when talking casually about weight" then it's a waste of time, but I suppose someone got paid for writing it.

if, as a PP said, it's suggesting that a person weighing 350lb should be considered the same, medically, as a person weighing 150lb, then that would be mad.

User10fuckingmillion · 27/04/2019 21:05

It made me...bristle Grin

feelingverylazytoday · 27/04/2019 21:41

I tried to read it, but I couldn't understand what she was wittering on about, tbh.
I've been obese myself (though nowhere near 350 pounds), hated it, so got on with the hard work of losing weight. Still can't make head nor tail out of the article.