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Would you teach at this school?

17 replies

ScrambledToe · 27/04/2019 15:39

A job’s just come up for a teacher in this school. The advert said that due to our recent ofsted report we have a vacancy for a teacher.

So obviously the 1st thing I did was seek out said ofsted report.

This is a private school! Not sure if I want to pay send my dc there!

But teach? Not sure?

Would you teach at this school?
Would you teach at this school?
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Inferiorbeing · 27/04/2019 15:48

Teaching in school with poor ofsted would depend why the school failed (in my eyes). A school with poor oftsed looking to improve may be able to offer you more opportunities/progression than a school full of long term staff

ScrambledToe · 27/04/2019 15:50

That’s what I was wondering inferiour but the wording of the advert sounds like they’ve turfed the last teacher out on their arse!

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nauseous5000 · 27/04/2019 15:51

If it had been a state school then yes. Schools that fail their ofsted get loads of money and support thrown at them. I'd be concerned that an independent school would see parents voting with their feet, so less money and less opportunities

AppleKatie · 27/04/2019 15:57

Only if the head and senior management had completely changed since that report.

To fail at such a fundamental levels (and inadequate teaching AND inadequate safeguarding is fundamental in the extreme) is an establishment problem that cannot be fixed by one teacher.

If they are trying to ‘fix’ this by scapegoating one class teacher they have learnt nothing. It would be a nightmare to work for inadequate leadership like this and a redundancy risk if parents vote with their feet.

Was it OFSTED? Or ISI? If it’s independent it would generally be an ISI inspection, failing one of those as spectacularly badly as this is actually really bloody difficult!

Marypoppinshats · 27/04/2019 16:00

AppleKatie It sounds like that is what the vacancy is for, to change the head!

Knackeredmommy · 27/04/2019 16:06

Wow! Good luck recruiting anyone, there will be huge restructuring, tons of work to get up to standard and yearly Ofsted reviews. No ta!

JeezOhGeeWhizz · 27/04/2019 16:13

Expect a ridiculous workload.
I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/04/2019 16:19

Going against the grain:

  1. Move this to the staffroom, you'll get more useful replies.
  1. I'm in a 'good' state school. It's awful. The children are not safe and the law is regularly flouted. Ofsted do not have the resources to make meaningful judgements anymore- their grades are now drivel.
  1. State schools have become very good at filling in the SEF with what ofsted want to hear (whether true or not). Independents often don't bother, so it's not uncommon for one to fail when it moves under ofsted for the first time. That doesn't mean the school is good (I doubt it), but I might consider it if other factors were right.
  1. The things that are awful about my school (e.g. behaviour) directly impact me every day. That might not be true in a posh school with poor teaching. I'd still be the same good teacher in a school with poor general standards of teaching.
Letsnotusemyname · 27/04/2019 16:38

There’s a fair chance that leadership are running round like headless chickens and/or rabbits caught in headlights.

Either way you’d need to go into with your eyes open.

OFSTED will be back fairly often. (And rightly so.)

ScrambledToe · 27/04/2019 16:40

Yes it is SIS not Ofsted.

It’s a private school but a specialist one (not SEN) can you guess?

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Shoeboxannie · 27/04/2019 17:49

I know which school this is. I don’t know the school, I googled part of the report. It is easy to find. Maybe you should get the report taken down op if you want to be anonymous.

ScrambledToe · 27/04/2019 17:51

Thanks shoe I tried not to make it identifying Blush

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PurpleDaisies · 27/04/2019 17:54

No way.

ScrambledToe · 27/04/2019 18:00

Hi all, I have report my own thread as I am aware that the information show may be identifying. The thread is due to be pulled soon. Thanks

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outsho · 27/04/2019 18:01

Nope, I would not. The college I work at is rated ‘good’ and it is a truly fantastic college, I love my job. I have teacher friends in failing secondary schools (mostly academies), they are utterly miserable and wanting to leave the profession all together.

viques · 27/04/2019 18:08

Why would you apply! As far as teachers are concerned it's a buyers market atm, and that's before the resignations go in before the end of May. It's a tough enough job without making it harder by working somewhere that is on the slippery slope to either closure or a grim minimum two years of restructuring.

Daisydad · 27/04/2019 18:16

Nauseous .... schools who do badly in an inspection get NO extra money or support unless they commission and pay for it themselves.

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