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Do Americans not get sick leave?? What’s your sick leave policy?

131 replies

Youngandfree · 27/04/2019 12:46

Just that really and posting here for traffic? I’m forever seeing posts on Facebook etc from ppl in the US (and actually sometimes uk) about how they are sick all week and so they have no pay from work?? Surely if under a permanent contract then you have sick leave allowance, I can understand in some jobs (0 hour contracts etc). Genuinely interested, not criticizing! I have known ppl in jobs to be off for months at a time with back problems/stress etc and they have been paid. What’s your Sick leave policy?
Mine is as follows:
For an ordinary illness, a teacher has access to 183 days of paid sick leave in a rolling four year period. This is subject to a further limit of 92 days of full pay in any single twelve month period. After 92 days full pay sick leave in a twelve month period, the teacher will move on to half pay.

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christinaaggy · 27/04/2019 13:41

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DonkeyHohtay · 27/04/2019 13:44

I'm self employed.

If I'm sick and don't work, I don't get paid. If I go on holiday, I don't get paid. If I take time off to look after the kids, I don't get paid.

oblada · 27/04/2019 13:45

Most small to medium employers only offer SSP. A lot of large private employer will offer SSP or barely more. To be honest I'd rather my employer pays a higher rate of pay and little sick pay (as ultimately a generous sick pay policy probably means a lower rate of pay than could be offered otherwise) so that we do not all subsidise sickness absence and individuals take responsibility. I'm grateful if my employer pays say 2 weeks sick so that I don't have to overly worry about occasional absence. I don't see the need for more.

Youngandfree · 27/04/2019 13:45

@christinaaggy As with all mn questions if you don’t want to answer then don’t 🤷‍♀️ Lots of ppl ask questions about salaries/suck pay and such on here!!?whats the difference!!??

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MuddyMoose · 27/04/2019 13:45

@christinaaggy - why are you replying to yourself? 😂 You're honestly absolutely bonkers!

christinaaggy · 27/04/2019 13:47

@MuddyMoose eh?

bliminy · 27/04/2019 13:47

Disability payments in the US are very hard to get. pretty much all are denied at the first application many need to employ a lawyer to help re apply

Social Security Disability yes.

Disability insurance through work is generally straightforward.

MuddyMoose · 27/04/2019 13:49

@christinaaggy don't act stupid 😂 ... Everyone knows this username & @standardaccount is both you. You're making yourself look ridiculous. Go offline for a bit & give everyone yourself a break.

MadisonAvenue · 27/04/2019 13:50

My husband works for an American company, they're really generous with holiday allowance (he gets 25 days plus bank holidays and however long the office is closed for at Christmas/New Year), paid sick leave and they also get private healthcare. I'm not sure how it works for the employees in the US though.

I do remember talking to one of the directors about tax once (he was visiting from the US and I was lending a hand to cover admin sick leave) and he was shocked at the amount paid here, particularly the 40% rate being paid by 'ordinary' employees as I'm sure he said that, at that time, that sort of rate was only paid by the very highest earners in the US.

Jebuschristchocolatebar · 27/04/2019 13:50

My company pay me for up to one year sick in any three year period. After that I go onto half pay for one year with a top up from social welfare. If I get certain critical illnesses such as cancer or a heart attack i have a work income support policy paid for by my employer so I would be paid full pay indefinitely. Work in finance in Ireland.

Redcherries · 27/04/2019 13:50

@muddymoose Its really quite bizarre isn't it. Name change halfway through a post so everyone on it knows your new name then reply to the old name backing yourself up in a different thread. Sure no'one will notice haha. Odd.

summerevenings2019 · 27/04/2019 13:51

@christinaaggy LMAO you're replying to yourself. We all know that you're @standardaccount too as you name changed on one of your other threads.

SoupDragon · 27/04/2019 13:51

PMSL at the poster agreeing with herself under a name change 😂

SchrodingersBrexit · 27/04/2019 13:51

Incredible. GrinGrinGrin

ghostyslovesheets · 27/04/2019 13:52

pmsl @standardaccount agreeing with herself - this is fabulous!

theonewiththecats · 27/04/2019 13:54

and actually sometimes uk) about how they are sick all week and so they have no pay from work?? Surely if under a permanent contract then you have sick leave allowance, I can understand in some jobs (0 hour contracts etc).

for a teacher, you live a rather ignorant life! You don't get proper sick pay in the UK just because you have a permanent contract. it is pretty common to get only statutory sick pay (£94/week and only paid after being off for 4 days, i.e. the first few days you get nothing). If you have bills to pay and you are not gravely ill, many in the UK have no option but to go to work whilst being pretty unwell.

no idea about the US.

TheSunIsShining19 · 27/04/2019 13:55

@standardaccount I agree, OP sounds a right nosy so and so. Not her country, not her business.

This is them replying to their own post 😂😂😂😂

Bless!

TheSunIsShining19 · 27/04/2019 13:56

Done a name change on another thread halfway through 😂😂

mybaloney · 27/04/2019 13:56

😂😂😂

Oh here it is.

PortiaCastis · 27/04/2019 13:58

standard give it a rest replying to yourself luvvie as you've been sussed

TheSunIsShining19 · 27/04/2019 13:59

Can't wait for their response 😂😂

Noteventhebirdsareupyet · 27/04/2019 14:02

Self employed in the UK here. No sick pay, statutory maternity pay if pay enough contributions the previous year. No holiday pay either. I earn a decent amount, so I just have to factor all of that into my business.

@standardaccount mega cringe for being caught in the act while being batshit!

Youngandfree · 27/04/2019 14:02

😂😂😂😂 I have seen it all!!!!

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PlasmaRain · 27/04/2019 14:04

When you say disability insurance you mean like Aflac, bliminy? Yes, many employers offer it, ours does, but it’s paid for by the employees as in it’s deducted from wages which is fine for people like me and DH who are on good salaries but bloody sucks for those on hourly minimum wage who barely manage to make ends meet in an area as expensive as this one as it is.

It’s not that expensive you say but for many it’s a wage deduction they can’t afford. Plus not all employers do offer it and you can only get it through an employer. Also their basic policies have so many exclusions - don’t cover cancer, organ transplants, chronic disease, mental illness etc - you have to take out their supplemental covers to be sure of covering every eventuality and that can wind up being very expensive.

Ohhgreat · 27/04/2019 14:10

OP teachers have an incredibly generous sick pay policy (and all other types of paid leave tbh!). The replies are much more typical of UK companies.