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To think Keira Knightly is NOT an alliterative name?!

34 replies

SachaStark · 22/04/2019 18:12

DH has Pointless on right now whilst he’s ironing.

I’ve just snapped my head up from my work at hearing them mention, during the “Actors with Alliterative Names” round that “Keira Knightley” would have won 8 points or something.

Wtf? That’s not what alliteration is! She’d have to be “Keira Kiteley” or “Neera Knightley” for her name to be alliterative.

AIBU to think I’m right, and Pointless is wrong?

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BendydickCuminsnatch · 22/04/2019 18:14

The definition is same letter or sound, so yes YABU. Sorry!

NotTerfNorCis · 22/04/2019 18:14

Of course it's not alliterative! Otherwise it would be Keira K-nightly.

wineoclockthanks · 22/04/2019 18:16

I think you're right, it's the sounds not necessarily the first letter.

Also, what's up with the woman in red? She's driving me mad with the way she stands with her arm sticking out.

Flyingpie · 22/04/2019 18:17

Alliteration is based on sound, so you are right. It's nothing to do with the letter.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 22/04/2019 18:17

Yep, it's the sound not the letter.

It's a bit off for Pointless to get something so obvious wrong, surely Richard Osman knows better than that for a start?

badtime · 22/04/2019 18:20

No it's not. It has to be the same sound, whether or not it is the same letter.

PanamaPattie · 22/04/2019 18:21

Is my username an example?

ItsAllGone19 · 22/04/2019 18:24

It's the same sound or letter that defines alliteration so Kiera Knightley is correct and was probably added to throw people off the answer.

needanappp · 22/04/2019 18:26

Pointless is correct. It's the sound or the letter.

needanappp · 22/04/2019 18:26

Forgot to attach!

To think Keira Knightly is NOT an alliterative name?!
MsMightyTitanAndHerTroubadours · 22/04/2019 18:27

he did say alliterative, or same letter at the start

I got it right.

donquixotedelamancha · 22/04/2019 18:30

Otherwise it would be Keira K-nightly.

How else would you pronounce it?

ForalltheSaints · 22/04/2019 18:33

I don't know whether ironing on a bank holiday or having Pointless on is worse!

In any case, I think The Imitation Game is the only time I have thought Keira Knightley's acting was any good.

SrSteveOskowski · 22/04/2019 18:38

It's the made up spelling that always makes me a bit Hmm
It's a traditional Irish name and should be spelt Ciara (can't do a fada)
Although Noel Fitzpatrick calls his dog Keira, same spelling as the actress and apparently named after her.

Trills · 22/04/2019 18:49

Until recently I thought alliteration was ALWAYS letters.

I have now accepted that it can also be sounds.

Seems like you're coming at it from the opposite direction.

brizzlemint · 22/04/2019 18:49

Alliteration is the same sound or the same letter so Keira Knightley is alliteration.

Bumper1969 · 22/04/2019 20:06

The same letter is alliteration. The sound is assonance or constenance. Two ks in a row is alliteration.

Bumper1969 · 22/04/2019 20:08

In fact the definition of alliteration is words that start with the same letter. If it's S it's such a specific ssssh sound that's sibilance. The rest is alliteration.

PurpleFlower1983 · 22/04/2019 20:10

Sounds OR letters. YABU, sorry!

TheFallenMadonna · 22/04/2019 20:11

I thought assonance was "getting the rhyme wrong"

Grumpasaurous · 22/04/2019 20:15

Sounds like it’s a good job the round wasn’t on onomatopoeia

banivani · 22/04/2019 20:21

Random link from the internet proving that true alliteration is sounds, not letters. alliteration.net/field5.htm

;)

As a Scandinavian I associate it with ancient Norse mostly, or mediaeval Scandinavian law. Point being in those days a letter was the same as a sound, the English hadn’t managed to corrupt the system yet with silent K:s. Also largely made for reading aloud and there is no effect to be had if sound isn’t the defining factor!

Flyingpie · 22/04/2019 21:36

Alliteration is consonant sounds. Assonance is vowel sounds.

RiversDisguise · 22/04/2019 21:40

Sounds not letters
That Google dictionary definition is shite

Osmond is a twerp. He reads the answers and is still often subtly wrong.

RiversDisguise · 22/04/2019 21:42

Yy banivaji

Those saying it can be letters don't grasp the point of it as a poetic device I.e. thw effect of the sounds when read aloud