To wonder how some people can lack total awareness when it comes to their children and behaviour

[Driftingthoughlife]

On holiday and tonight was the kids club talent show which they have been rehearsing for today and making costumes
Most of the kids are singing or dancing
During the show this little girl starts running and screaming on the dance floor which totally drowns the little boy on stage. At this point you can see people looking round wondering who this child belongs to.
The next child does a card trick- Cue the little girl running up on stage and grabbing the cards of the table and flinging them. At this point the kids club rep steps on stage and asked for parents of the little girl to come and get her- finally a women stand up and goes and gets her with a right grumpy face on
During the next act the little girls starts running up on the dance floor again screaming while a little girl is singing and the mum starts filming her running around!!!!

The girl on stage ends up in tears and again the rep steps in and asks that noise is kept down. The Mum storms into the dancefloor sweeps up the little girls and walks out glaring at the rep. We think that is the end of that
Two acts later the mum is back without the little girls and starts filming a boy on stage which we assume is her son. Half way through she actually turns round to the the table behind her and gives a massive “SHUSH” to them.
At this point everyone is looking round at each other some look annoyed some look amused at her behaviour.

After her son has finished she sits down and the next act which is 2 girls doing gymnastics starts. Suddenly the little girl runs back in with a guy chasing her (think it is dad) runs up to girls on the dance floor doing gymnastics and collides with one of the girls coming out of a cartwheel.
The Mum storms up grabs the little girl who is in tears storms back stage and comes out dragging her son with one hand and her daughter with the other shouting about the shit organisation and she will be complaining that her daughter got hurt. She leaves dragging the kids with the husband following sheeply behind.
Everyone is kind of stunned into silence until the rep who had come on stage to check the girl who had been doing the cartwheel was ok said “on with the show and the 2 girls started again”
Guess who we will be avoiding down by the pool tomorrow?

I think generally there are a fair amount of English people who have a massively inflated opinion of their importance and think that they have a right to inflict their or their children’s unsociable behaviour on others.

We had a issue in Vietnam last week, first few days were lovely, nice mix of nationalities. Then big wedding party arrives - cue loads of shoving, rough horseplay, smoking and tipping beer in the pool. After wedding in the evening one guest falls asleep in our private patio area and we have to call security at 3am to remove him.

This is why I never holiday with the hoi-polloi darling. 😁

It doesn't matter what was going on with the child, she should not have been allowed to disrupt the proceedings. Full stop.

Dreadful parenting fail.

the perfect response would have been to stand and clap as she walked out yelling abuse, would have shown the rep support and shown the mother that she is a twat

Maybe the little girl had autism and this was the first break the parents have had in years?
is a break now just setting your child free in a group of strangers and saying have at it?

I'm pretty sure this isn't SEN and just lazy shit parenting. Even if your child does have autism, if they're ruinine it for everyone else, remove them

My 'D'sis was like this with her 'D'D. DD was always 'just having fun', 'just being a kid'. When other kids got hurt it was never her fault, they were picking on her (they weren't). She just couldn't be arsed disciplining her. Her behaviour got worse as she got older too. It's still everyone else's fault but hers. 🙄

My dd has autism, she would have been the first one to sign up for the talent show! Autism isn't an excuse for poor behaviour or bad parenting, if your child cannot cope with an optional environment you need to find something else to do. (There's situations you can avoid eg this, others you can't so I have tons of sympathy in a drs waiting room!)

YABU OP. You should all have been down on your knees worshipping the Golden Uterus for blessing you with the presence of such magnificent children. Obviously.

Is "maybe the child has autism" going to be people's reasoning for everything on Mumsnet? It seems to be offered as an explanation for any bad behaviour on every single thread lol.

I have a child with autism, uneed no circumstances would I allow this to happen . Unfortunately it does sound like terrible parenting. No self respecting autism parent I know would allow their child to disrupt other children in this way.

We do not seek the truth in matters dear to ourselves but marshal our faculties to defend what we believe.

A toddler decided to come up on stage in a performance I was watching (lower key that what you describe, think school performance) and dismantling the set. You could feel the atmosphere turn totally awkward - everyone was looking at each other thinking WHY HAVEN'T THE PARENTS COME UP AND STOPPED THIS?

Eventually an older sister appeared and half-heartedly tried to catch him. All along the Mum was looking on fondly. And guess what - I know her, there is no autism, and she is a fabulous, practical, sensible Mum to her DC. I was astonished.

I have since assumed there is such a thing as "Mum goggles" and have wondered ever since what my DC have done to annoy all and sundry over the years that I have thought was OK, even endearing.

I know I'm generalising (and I hope it's not an offensive generalisation), but I've yet to come across a parent of an autistic child who had that kind of entitled "it's my kid's right to do what they like in public" attitude. If anything, I've found that parents in that situation are the politest and most conscious of other people's space, probably because members of the public can be very insensitive about SEN.

By and large, British children are unruly and undisciplined. It's a well known fact. So if this was abroad, she and her family are living up to the reputation.

I was at a tourist attraction yesterday. Two grandparents in he cafe were actively encouraging a little boy of around two to shout, barged people asside themselves without any attempt at sorry or excuse me, instigated a game of banging on the table and also put their grubby sponge ball on the same table surface other people were using for food. Yes, it was quite rightly a child friendly space, but that doesn't mean act like animals. I felt very sorry for the child, as presumably he will be in trouble when he starts school, simply for doing what he has experienced as normal in his family.

@Bumbalaya please don't play the autism card. My son is on the spectrum and we wouldn't dream of letting him behave this way.

This was incredibly selfish and in my opinion bad parenting to allow it to continue the way it did.

Entitled people assuming that everyone else needs to put up with their bundle of hell joy

@Thisweekisgoingtobecrazy exactly.

That is unfortunately just bad parenting. You see it all the time, people who believe that supermarkets are playgrounds & woe betide the staff who have to prevent Golden Child from climbing on/up/over whatever they want. I’ve seen children clambering all over trolleys not designed as playthings, running up/down/sitting on escalators while the parents are either oblivious or laughing & thinking it’s funny or cute. By contrast children with special needs are either extremely well behaved or moved to a less triggering environment swiftly.

I dont believe it’s a BRITISH child thing Just a bad parent thing. And I doubt she had autism either.

I work at a extremely popular tourist attraction and we get 1000s of kids in a day. British. French Italian Usa Japanese German Finnish Korean I could go on forever.

I can tell you exactly the kids that will be naughty and it’s not the Brits.

Oh do tell....

I missed how old the girl is?
Sounds like she really just wanted to be on the dance floor so hard to distract her into something else.
With both parents there one should have taken her out.
Some kids will scream their head off when restrained so that isn't necessarily much better.

Wonder if the timing of the show meant the youngest would be really tired.

No excuse for the mum videoing her dd when they were interrupting another child though

Can u not guess?

@madeyemoodysmum nope.

ODFOD with the autism thing. DS is in the process of being assessed to see if autism is behind his speech delay and there's no way I'd ever allow him to behave like that. Stop perpetuating the stereotype that children with autism are naughty and unpleasant - it's ableist and untrue.