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to be really irritated with comments like this

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Leati · 14/07/2007 06:52

The other day I started a thread about gun policy in the US. I am from the US but agree with alot of you ladies about the US gun policy being to relaxes. One of the ladies suggested that we should change the law. I tried to explain that the law was protected by the United States constitution and therefor it was not very easy to change. Then someone who had not been part of conversation up until that point get on and starts writing outragously insulting comments

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Of course the Americans want guns. They are a huge country with lots of space, animals, wilderness much much less sophisticated and indeed behind the times than the UK and most of Europe with their history of cow boys and some very simple people living there. Obviously they therefore hang on to their guns. Our police can police the 60m people here in the UK without guns on the whole and as there are few guns to be had we have fewer deaths and murders. This is one reason most of us choose to stay in the UK rather than move to the US.

and then the user writes this

Americans are often simple people a bit behind Europe, of course they are. You'll catch up eventually but you even have the death penalty. You and China... we despair over here and so many believing the planet is 6000 years old only. It's a kind of simpleness which in some ways is quite sweet but you've a long way to go to be in the same advanced mindset of most Europeans.

I just have to ask...where does she come up with this crap

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Leati · 14/07/2007 09:40

I am asking each of you individually, I assumed that you all didn't have the exact same beliefs.

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policywonk · 14/07/2007 09:42

I'm an atheist. (I actually typed 'antheist' there. Does that mean I pray to Anthea Turner?)

Leati · 14/07/2007 09:42

Christianity: 2.1 billion

Islam: 1.3 billion

Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion

Hinduism: 900 million

Chinese traditional religion: 394 million

Buddhism: 376 million

primal-indigenous: 300 million

African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million

Sikhism: 23 million

Juche: 19 million

Spiritism: 15 million

Judaism: 14 million

Baha'i: 7 million

Jainism: 4.2 million

Shinto: 4 million

Cao Dai: 4 million

Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million

Tenrikyo: 2 million

Neo-Paganism: 1 million

Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand

Rastafarianism: 600 thousand

Scientology: 500 thousand

www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

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JemimaPip · 14/07/2007 09:44

Regardless of what we, as individuals, believe, the UK culture is predominantly and ubiquitously christian. Interesting thing, culture, because it is so ubiquitous as to be virtually invisible to those who are immersed in it.

Personally, I do not find a belief in g*d inconsistent with acceptance of evolutionary theory.

policywonk · 14/07/2007 09:44

Those are global statistics, Leati.

geekgirl · 14/07/2007 09:46

this is more useful

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 09:46

Does Catholicism come under Christianity then? (serious question)

JemimaPip · 14/07/2007 09:47

BoM - yes!

policywonk · 14/07/2007 09:47

My Websters atlas has the following stats for religion in the US:

Protestant - 57.9%
Roman Catholic - 21 %
Jewish - 2.1 %
Muslim - 1.9 %
non-religious - 8.7 %
other - 8.4 %

Leati · 14/07/2007 09:47

Top ten Denomination in US

Catholic 50,873,000 24.5% 48% 11.74%
Baptist 33,830,000 16.3% 50% 8.13%
Methodist 14,150,000 6.8% 49% 3.33%
Lutheran 9,580,000 4.6% 43% 1.98%
Pentecostal/Charismatic/Foursquare 4,407,000 2.1% 66% 1.40%
Presbyterian 5,596,000 2.7% 49% 1.32%
Mormon/
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 2,697,000 1.3% 71% 0.92%
Non-denominational Christians 2,489,000 1.2% 61% 0.73%
Church of Christ 2,593,000 1.2% 58% 0.72%
Episcopal/Anglican 3,451,000 1.7% 30% 0.50%
Assemblies of God 1,106,000 0.5% 69% 0.37%
Congregational/
United Church of Christ 1,378,000 0.7% * 30% 0.20%
Seventh-Day Adventist 724,000 0.3% 47% 0.16%

www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#bodies

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Leati · 14/07/2007 09:49

BandofMuggles

Yes catholics are considered christian religion.

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BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 09:51

Thank You, that's what I thought.
Well I am a Pagan. Not Neo Pagan, just a normal Pagan, and am very interested in Wicca too.
Shall I fetch the kindling

policywonk · 14/07/2007 09:52

And what do Pagans believe about evolution, BoM?

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 09:53

I think people make too much of religion.
To fight a war because someone practices a different belief to you and wont convert to yours is ridiculous IMO.
Live and let live I say..............

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 09:54

I don't know about all the others but I believe in it. They tend to worship the Earth and nature etc, so that fits in with evolution I would say

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 14/07/2007 09:56

all of the 'faiths' on the list are christian bom. a christian is a person who follows the teachings of christ. or believes in christ.

the different ways of practicing that faith are what make the different denominations.

for example catholics believe that the pope is god's representative on earth and therefore infallible.

protestants don't believe this. they believe that you communciate with god directly-not through an earthly representative.

baptists believe that you have to 'baptised' ie born again in faith to be a true believer.

all different but all christians.

and scientologists believe that we are all klingons from a spaceship exploding...but i'm not sure if they are christians or not!

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 14/07/2007 09:57

and that is a very simple explanation before anyone starts jumping on me.

GryffindorInARiffindor · 14/07/2007 10:01

catholics do believe you communicate directly with God too - the Pope is the head of the church

GryffindorInARiffindor · 14/07/2007 10:01

not jumping btw

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 10:01

Filchy, the ones in the second list are all christian but the first list seemed to encompass many other ones, and Christianity is at the top, Catholic not on it, hence my question.

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 14/07/2007 10:02

yes but i was thinking in terms of confessing to a priest, whereas anglicans confess directly to god.

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 10:02

Any scientologists on today?? They do seem a strange lot

Leati · 14/07/2007 10:03

Okay, I think that I have got all worked out now. Yes, there is some strange religion does believe the earth is between 6000-10000 yrs old and supports that info with phony information. BTW religion was founded in 1961. And it had the misfortune of naming itself Young Earth Creationists which also appears to be the same term used for a lot of other christian religions that believe that God created Earth and Man.

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policywonk · 14/07/2007 10:03

Atheists confess directly to their mothers

BandofMuggles · 14/07/2007 10:03

There are just too many. I can't remember them all.

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