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AIBU to be worried about social housing?

330 replies

thegreenlight · 13/04/2019 13:57

Have found our dream home on a new estate - looks out over green to the front. Lovely lay out, super excited. However, we went to look at the one we wanted to reserve (80% finished) to find that half the garden backs onto a small row of 3 social rent houses. I feel awful to be worried abou this but I am! The other houses it backs onto are small private houses. I now don’t know what to do. I don’t want to make the wrong choice for our family. What if there’s trouble? It’s seriously making me reconsider. There isn’t much social housing on the estate (minimum amount I guess) does anyone have any experience?

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chickenfajitas73 · 13/04/2019 19:13

I haven’t RTFT but, we love ina small village, new housing estate goes up, not large but maybe 50-60 houses. Some up for £850,000 so pretty pricey. Then at the backbtheres the row of 8 hoisting association houses, mostly pretty nice people - except for 1 family. Who have terrorised not just their neighbours but the whole village ! Crime rate has risen to the point that some insurance companies will no longer cover us and the locals have all installed cctv. So I get your worries. It’s pot luck.

LovelyJubbly67 · 13/04/2019 19:13

@MeltingWax

I didn't say you were.

SilverySurfer · 13/04/2019 19:15

Don't do it, you and your family will be murdered in your beds Hmm

Biscuit
PookieDo · 13/04/2019 19:15

If you buy on nearly all new build estates there is usually 25% social housing! If you buy on an older ex council estate there will be some council housing.

So to avoid all social housing I would advise OP to:
Buy an old house and zoopla all the properties within 2 mile radius to check for SH
Buy a house in the middle of nowhere
Keep a look out for a small gated community of private houses - no SH will be in there

Shutuptodd · 13/04/2019 19:26

I live on a council estate in quite a posh area. Everyone outside of where I live slag it off saying it's full of anti social idiots. Other than a couple of messy gardens it's a lovely place to live and shockingly most of us are out at work most days and just want to live quiet lives with our families. You do get idiots in all walks of life. It's just a shame so many people just believe those stupid documentaries.

applesarerroundandshiny · 13/04/2019 19:27

I live on an estate which is mixed council / ex council private key and ex council owner occupier. The only way we can tell the difference is when the private homes go on the market or the ones that are still council got all their windows replaced.

There are a couple of houses across the estate more unkempt than others but I couldn't tell you if these are the council or private homes.

purplelila2 · 13/04/2019 19:40

I live on a private estate and about a year ago a single mother who had bought and sold her house moved here with her 2 teens.

Her son has bought nothing but trouble here.
Anti social behaviour, littering, driving a moped up and down the pavement, loud raging arguments at 3 in the morning to mention a few issues.

Her son and his friends urinating in the street...

so ignore these people I can totally understand your reservations.

purplelila2 · 13/04/2019 19:42
  • meant to read bought and sold her council house
PookieDo · 13/04/2019 19:45

@purplelila2

So an ex council tenant who bought a house but no longer a SH tenant on an estate with no SH
Great example there

applesarerroundandshiny · 13/04/2019 19:49

To be fair to @Huskylover1 I understand a bit of what she is saying. There are estates not too far from me where criminality/ police call outs / social services involvement with families is a lot higher than in other areas nearby. That's not to say that everyone who lives on these particular estates is a problem, but there is a lot higher incidence of troubled families there than on the estate where I live.,

purplelila2 · 13/04/2019 19:49

yes it is pookie you take the council tenant out of social housing but the same mentality same attitude stays.

PookieDo · 13/04/2019 19:50

How the fuck do you know what all your neighbours did with their finances and housing? Can you hear yourself?!!

purplelila2 · 13/04/2019 19:51

I don't know what anyone is trying to disprove you look up the stats higher crime higher levels of anti social behaviour in social housing estates.
Of course everyone isn't like that but that is what you get.

Pharlapwasthebest · 13/04/2019 19:52

@daphine2004
Why do you assume people that live in SH don’t work? I work. Just don’t earn enough to rent or buy.
As I already said, I live on a purely sh estate, one family has a garden that’s a not of a mess(nothing major), but otherwise it’s lovely, lots of well looked after gardens/flowers etc. There is no late night noise/no drugs/no violence. The kids all play out the front. It’s great.
Don’t make assumptions.

AvengersAssemble · 13/04/2019 19:53

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Pharlapwasthebest · 13/04/2019 19:53

bit of a mess

purplelila2 · 13/04/2019 19:54

BECAUSE WHEN SHE MOVED IN I TRIED BEING NIEGHBOURLY AND SHE TOLD ME CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF POOKIE.

MANY OF HER NEIGHBOR'S HAVE REPORTED HER TO THE POLICE FOR ANTI SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR THEY DID A PATROL YESTERDAY AND MOVED HER SON AND HIS FRIENDS ON FROM OUTSIDE OUR HOMES SO YES I CAN HEAR MYSELF
HOW DARE YOU

PookieDo · 13/04/2019 19:57

I get it I get it. I grew up on a council estate in a nice town with nice people and nothing antisocial. I don’t live in an antisocial area now either.

I did live in a large town with a mix of housing that was very antisocial but I did not canvass all the troublemakers about their housing status and not prepared to make accusations about ‘all those scum from the council housing’
If you live in a particularly rough area and can afford not to live there then you should move.

The issue with social housing and antisocial behaviour is that usually the people who need to access it and misbehave are likely living in poverty, have not had good education, living with mental health issues and addiction. The answer is not to keep them in pens on the outskirts of town away from all the folk who want their house prices protected because isn’t this exactly what is breeding crime and violence and gangs?? no one wants to integrate communities because poverty and lack of education is very distasteful. Perhaps we should bring back the work house and they can all live in there

gamerwidow · 13/04/2019 19:58

OP not all social housing is equal in terms of resale value and its affect on neighbouring houses.
I wouldn't buy a house next to a rough council estate but I wouldn't think twice about buying a new build next to social housing on this type of development.
I grew up in on council estates and there are some I would move to again over my dead body and some I would be happy to buy a house on now.
It's better to have a mix of properties in an area so you have some social and some private so you don't end up with ghettos. You can get arsehole neighbours who own their house too, having money doesn't stop you from being a dick sadly.
I would buy the house.

PookieDo · 13/04/2019 19:58

@purplelila2

You are a complete embarrassment to yourself TBH

PookieDo · 13/04/2019 20:00

@gamerwidow

This thread seems to be suggesting Ghettos are the answer

Marilynmansonsthermos · 13/04/2019 20:01

Awful op. I'm sorry but I really do take offence to posts like this. I was bought up in social housing. My parents needed it through no fault of my own in the 70s. They bought me and my siblings up well and we have all turned out to be respectable, useful members of society as far as I'm concerned! Can you not understand why your attitude would upset people op? It's not even a huge amount of social housing. Just three houses. Not like you are moving into a huge sink estate.

gamerwidow · 13/04/2019 20:03

PookieDo

I know, it's sad. People with less money are part of community too not an alien species you have to keep separate from. It's the variety that makes us stronger.

whodafeck · 13/04/2019 20:03

I live in a council house.

My D.C. is a doctor. A medical one.

Would you sneer at them when you need treated because they’re council house scum?

And I’m doing a PhD. I’ll be a doctor soon. I’m funded, and I work part time and pay taxes.

Feckless, scum?

Marilynmansonsthermos · 13/04/2019 20:03

Fault of their own I should have said ...sorry for typo. For what it's worth I now live in a shared ownership home on a mixed tenure estate..private, shared ownership and council. You wouldn't really know who was who so I'm sure you have nothing to panic about!